Front and back

Hello,

Probably one for nick or Lou.

I have been offered a large amount of front and back jewellery from an antiques man who took them as part of a bulk load; he has no interest whatsoever in jewellery and is offering me nearly a kilo at what he says is 15% of content.

I’ve been told to snap his hand off?

Any thoughts? What is front and back? What does it mean?

Thanks in advance.

Anyone....?

Front and back of earings? I do not know, but it might be a good idea to find out before putting much money down to purchase them...
Ask the jeweler to get a sample, or show you what he has...

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

Johnny5 said:

If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

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Truer words have never been spoken

I did a quick search on line, and all I found is earrings that have art in the front and the rear of the ear lobe.
Same with necklaces...
for an example of an earring:

Thanks all!

I don’t think it’s a “too good to be true” scenario.

I have known the man and wife selling since I was 7/8. He is saying i can make some really really good money.... he’s talking a mark up of about 10/11k from a 6k payment.

He is a jeweller and is someone I would go to for advice. I just wondered whether anyone else has done similar.

Front and back is another description for gold filled or rolled gold, it’s hard to value as much is very worn but I wouldn’t want to pay more than the value of 1/20 9 carat with a profit added in.
You are been told it’s solid not filled hence the value he’s claiming which is nearly spot for 9 carat the only one making money here is him, you would lose £5000 not make 10 / 11 k.

Thanks Nick!

Someone has said something similar... except that large proportions of the items are in face solid, with clasps and such being high quality filled.

They have said that general rule of thumb is to go by about 50% of item weight and divide that by 9ct.

If that is the case then my calculations make the chap spot on. Plus he knows there’s no where to hide so to speak so I can’t see he’s trying to scam me.

In any case I’m taking 100 grams off him today which I have agreed to pay full asking price for if it is what he says. I’m going to process it all in his workshop tomorrow in front of him.

If I get what I am told I should, I will purchase the rest.

The maths for that calculation is way off in my opinion but for your sake I hope I’m wrong, please give the results when you have done the sample batch as it may help others who are offered similar items.

Cheers Nick.

I’m heading over there shortly to sort 100g from the pile.

Will 100% post results.

Glad that you are able to take a small sample. Looking forward for the results.

Jmk88 said:

In any case I’m taking 100 grams off him today which I have agreed to pay full asking price for if it is what he says. I’m going to process it all in his workshop tomorrow in front of him.

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I’m heading over there shortly to sort 100g from the pile.

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So how did your test go :?:

Kurt

I have just dropped it all and dried.

I have 17.3 grams from 100 grams of the material which makes the chap spot on.

This is however the first refine and I anticipate losing maybe 0.2/3 on the second. As I normally do.

I will be purchasing the rest Monday.

Second drop.

I’m going to collect a new blow torch shortly so will stick this in the oven for an hour (100c for anyone interested) and will post my melt later on this afternoon or evening.

The pictures are like Salma Hayeks dance from start to finish in dusk till dawn... I’m confused about which process I enjoy watching the most.

:roll:

And yes... that’s a picture of my wife.

Not intended.

:lol:

Jmk88 said:

I have just dropped it all and dried.

I have 17.3 grams from 100 grams of the material which makes the chap spot on.

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8) Glad to hear the test run went as expected/hoped for :!: :mrgreen:

Kurt

Thanks Kurt! Much appreciated.

I will post final results.

Well.... here it is.

Not very happy with the outcome this is the second refine!

I must have contaminated it with something.

It’s going to go back in next weekend I’m too tired to do anymore today.

But all in all... success. I think after contamination removal it’s going to be close to 17 grams on the dot.

I'm a bit confused of the color of your liquid.
It do not seem clear, is it silver chloride in it?
It should anyway be filtered so it is completely clear. before dropping the gold.
Nice size button anyway :mrgreen: