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kadriver

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I would be glad to help you. Here are the basics:

I will assume you are refining karat scrap - scrap 14k 10k 18k jewelry items. This process is not for refining gold plated or gold filled items - get Lazer Steve's video for refining gold filled scrap - it is excellent.

Edit to add important information.
The very first step is to test, sort and mechanically clean the metal to remove stones and dirt, then incinerate (not melt) the metal to remove external impurities such as oils and other junk that may adhere.

I begin by sorting everthing acording to the markings on the metal.

I then carefully test EACH PIECE of metal to be refined. Both the gold and the silver get acid tested - no exceptions. (the silver will be used for inquarting later on).

I have an acid test kit for testing the gold and some gold testing needles (a set of needles that are tipped with a known karat gold - 8k thru 22k) and some silver test solution (called Schwerter Solution) for testing the silver. I got all three of these from Ebay.

I never rely on the stamp, except to do the initial sort. Some pieces are stamped but they are NOT gold.

Or they are stamped with a value that is higher than the actual precious metal content. This applies to silver even more so than gold.

each piece, no matter how big or small, gets the acid test. Some pieces get tested several times when I get inconclusive results.

Some gold pieces are marked 14k, but test to be 10k with the acid. I throw them in the 10k pile, even though they are marked 14k.

To test the silver pieces, I take a fine file and cut deep into the metal. I then add a drop of Schwerter Solution to the cut.

Schwerter Solution turns red almost immediately when it comes in contact with silver. If it turns green, grey, or black, then re-file it and test it again to make sure.

If it does not turn red after the second test, then it is probably not silver. I set the non-silver items aside, or throw them away.

About two or three percent (estimated) of all the silver jewelry I get that is marked 925, is not silver - the schwerter solution test reveals this.

Once everthing is sorted and carefully tested, I remove all stones and other non metal material from the scrap. I use pliers and wire cutters.

I carefully cut open the clasps on necklaces and bracelets and remove the steel springs and throw them away.

Using heavy wire cutters, I cut the rings and spread them out. I then use a tooth brush size wire brush to gently remove the grime that builds up inside the ring where it is hard to get at.

When finished, I have several piles of clean metal, all sorted according to their precious metal content.

This process is tedious and time consuming, but it is time well spent if you want you metal to be clean, and it can be enjoyable.

Next, I carefully incinerate the clean metal with a propane torch, heating each piece to redness.

I hold the big pieces with a long steel tweezer in the flame until it turns red hot. Or you can just put everthing in a large melt dish and heat it to redness, all at once.

The purpose of incineration is to burn off impurities from the metals, and prevent them from getting into your reaction vessel.
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The first step is to inquart the gold - add enough silver to get the gold down to 6k or lower. This assumes that you have some scrap silver jewelry or other scrap sterling silver available for doing this. The silver can be recovered after it is dissolved out of the gold.

the root word of inquart is quart or quarter: (1/4 gold) with (3/4 base metal) = 6k gold.

The reason for doing this is because you will be dissolving the silver and other base metals from the inquarted 6k gold with nitric acid. Nitric acid will NOT dissolve gold. The nitric acid WILL dissolve the silver and other base metals in your karat scrap much more easily and completely if the gold alloy is 6k or lower.

1. weight the gold scrap that you want to refine - record the weights.

2. calculate the amount of silver you will need to add to the gold scrap to get the scrap down to 6k or lower:

Say you have 47 grams of 14k and 32 grams of 10k.

Get out your calculator.

14k gold and 10k gold are both alloys of pure gold, plus some base metal such as copper, nickle, or sometimes silver. 14k has less base metal than 10k gold.

First, determine the amount of pure gold in your sample, you must multiply the weight in grams by the karat purity:

14k:
47 grams multiplied by .585 (14k divided by 24k = .585)
47g X .585 = 27.495 grams
You have 27.495 grams of pure gold in your 47g sample of 14k.

10k:
32 grams multiplied by .417 (10k divided by 24k = .417)
32g X .417 = 13.344 grams
You have 13.344 grams of pure gold in your 32g sample of 10k.

Now add the two products together to get a total amount of pure gold:
27.495 + 13.344 = 40.839 grams
You have 40.839 grams total of 24k gold in both samples of 14k & 10k.

Now, calculate the amount of silver needed to get your samples down to 6k or lower.

First, see how much base metal is already in your 14k & 10k Gold

in your 14k sample you determined that you had 27.495 grams of pure gold. So, take 47 grams and subtract the amount of pure gold:
47g minus 27.495 = 19.505 grams
You have 19.505 of base metal ALREADY IN your 47g of 14k.

do the same for the 10k, it had 13.344 grams of pure gold, so take 32 grams and subtract the amount of pure gold:
32 minus 13.344 = 18.656 grams
You have 18.656 grams of base metal ALREADY IN your 32g of 10k.

now add the two together to get the total amount of base metal in your samples:
19.505 + 18.656 = 38.161 grams
You have 38.161 grams of base ALREADY IN THE SAMPLES.

Now multiply the amount of pure gold you have, 40.839 from above, by 3:

40.839 of 24k X 3 = 122.517 grams
You will need 122.517 grams of base metal to make a 6k alloy.

But you ALREADY HAVE 38.161 grams of base metal in the 14k & 10k samples.

So, you must subtract the amount ALREADY IN your samples from 122.517 grams needed.

122.517 (needed) minus 38.161 (ALREADY IN) = 84.356 grams
You will need to add 84.356 grams of silver to your 14k & 10k samples to get the gold down to 6k alloy.

I always add a little extra to get the alloy a little lower than 6k. In this case, I would probably add 90 or even 100 grams of silver. It is better to add too much silver rather than not enough.

Once you have calculated for inquartation, then you mix all the metal - 47 grams of 14k, 32 grams of 10k, and 90 grams of silver - in a large melting dish and melt all the metal together with a torch. I use an oxy/accet torch I purched from Harbor Freight for about $279.

Once the metals are molten, I stir the molten metal with a graphite stirring rod (from Ebay). I stir it for at least 60 seconds to enure thorough mixing/alloying. Then I pour the molten metal into a tall METAL container of cold tap water. Don't use plastic or glass or the hot metal will melt through or break the vessel. I use a tall metal coffee brewer I bought from a thrift shop for $5.

As you pour the molten metal into the METAL container of water it will form bits and pieces of 6k alloy gold as it hits the cold water in the METAL container.

I drain off the tap water and then rinse the 6k alloy metal with distilled water. If you don't rinse with distilled water, then some silver chloride may form when you add the nitric acid to dissolve the base metals. Silver chloride is hard to get out and may end up in your final pure gold bar.

Please cut & paste to see a video I made of inquarting gold on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBr4cTJfLtM

This is all I have time for now. I hope I have not made any mistakes. If you find something, then please let me know and I will try to get it right.

I will post more on the forum including this whole process above.
Please feel free to ask any questions - but you must understand that I am still new to refining and still learning - any feedback will be appreciated.

thank you for you interest - kadriver
 

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The next step in the process:

Dissolve the base metals (including the silver) out of the inquarted gold with nitric acid.

I use dilute nitric acid. Dilute means 50 percent concentrated (68%-70% Technical or ACS grade) nitric acid, and 50 percent DISTILLED water. DO NOT use tap water or you will get chlorides in your solutions.

The nitric acid will dissolve the silver & other base metals, but it will not dissolve the gold. The gold will be left in the bottom of the container (see photo below).

First, dry and weigh the inquarted gold. record the weight.

In our sample we started with 47 grams of 14k and 32 grams of 10k karat scrap gold. To this we needed to add 84.356 grams of silver to get the gold down to 6k alloy. I chose to add 90 grams of silver - adding too much silver is better than not adding enough.

So now I have 47g of 14k plus 32g of 10k plus 90g of silver. The total weight should be 169 grams of 6k gold.

Of this 169 grams, 128.161 grams will be base metal:
169g inquarted gold minus 40.839g pure gold = 128.161g base metal.

I will need to dissolve 128.161 grams of base metal & silver from my sample.

I use this number to calculate the amount of acid needed - 1.44 ml of 68% to 70% nitric acid per gram of base metal in my sample.

I got this number off the forum. There may be some who disagree with this figure and I am open to correction, but this is the number I use.

128.161g base metal multiplied by 1.44 ml concentrated (68% to 70% Technical grade or ACS grade) nitric acid = 184.55 ml nitric acid.

I will need 185 ml (rounded up from 184.55 ml) nitric acid for this first reaction.

I will be diluting the acid with DISTILLED WATER. Do not use tap water or you will get silver chloride in your reaction vessel.

I will use a 50/50 mix of acid and water:
185 ml DISTILLED WATER and 185 ml Concentrated nitric acid.

DO NOT LEAVE THE REACTION VESSEL DURING THE REACTION - KEEP AN EYE AND EAR ON IT AT ALL TIMES WHILE THE ACID AND HEAT ARE AT WORK.

Do the reaction OUTSIDE as thick poisonous fumes are produced - they can make you sick. Don't even think about doing this inside a closed room or in your house. IT MUST BE DONE OUTSIDE away from people and pets.

I set up my reaction container outside consisting of a black plastic tub to catch any spillage (Lowes), an electric hot plate (ebay) a corningware casserole dish to catch overflow (thrift store) and the reaction vessel, in this case a heavy pyrex coffee pot. (see the photo)

I place the inquarted gold into the heavy pyrex coffee pot with lid.

I then measure and add 185 ml DISTILLED WATER to the 6k gold. I use a graduated cylinder.

I place the lid on the coffee pot with the 6k gold & distilled water inside. I then set the coffee pot on a corningware casserole dish. The corningware dish distributes the heat and will catch any liquid in case i have a boil over - they do happen as you can see by the condition of my hot plate.

Then I place the dish with the coffee pot onto an electric hotplate set inside a large plastic tub (Lowes Cement Mix Tub - $25.00). I DO NOT ADD HEAT AT THIS POINT.

I carefully measure out 185 ml concentrated nitric acid with a graduated cylinder and pour it into a 250 ml beaker, then cover the beaker with a watch glass and set it inside the black plastic tub.

I add the acid to the coffee pot a little at a time and put the lid back on. Adding it all at once could cause a boil over. I add about 50 ml at a time and wait a few minutes until the reaction calms down between additions.

As the acid is added and the reaction starts, there will be thick red or brown fumes - do not breath these fumes as they are very harmful.

Keep adding the acid a little at a time until it is all in the reaction vessel (coffee pot). Keep the lid on the coffee pot and add gentle heat at first. Adding heat too quick or too intensely can cause a boil over.

Harold from the forum advises: do not crush the inquarted gold chucks in the bottom of the vessel while the acid is dissolving the base metals. I take his advice and leave the chucks of gold alone and let the acid do all the work.

Crushing the gold while the base metals dissolve in the acid will cause tiny particles of colloidal gold to be released - causing possible loss of some of the gold. So I just leave it alone and let the acid do the work.

I keep adding heat until I have it turned up all the way - gradually.

This first reaction takes about an hour to complete, sometimes more or less depending on the amount of material in the vessel.

I can tell when the reaction is over when no more red fumes are being produced inside the vessel with the lid on - the atmosphere inside the coffee pot will be clear (or just slightly tinted brown).

The liquid in the coffee pot will probably be blue. This is silver nitrate solution along with copper nitrate and other metals that have dissolved in the acid. You want to save this solution so that you can recover the silver from it later on. The silver will be from the silver you used to inquart the gold - the silver is now dissolved into the acid.

In the bottom of the coffee pot will be the gold. You can see it. Nitric acid will not dissolve the gold. It is left, untouched by the acid in the botton of the container - but nearly all of the base metals including the silver I added, have been dissolved (see photo below).

Once the reaction is complete, I remove from the heat and allow it to cool. During the cooling period you may observe some crystal formation inside the vessel. These are silver nitrate crystals and this is normal.

Once the solution is cool, I usually add some DISTILLED WATER to dissolve the silver nitrate crystals if any are present.

Then I filter the solution in a filter flask using a vacuum filter rig (see photo)

The purpose of filtering at this point is to remove solids from the silver nitrate sloution. I pour the liquid into a medium filter paper.

I do not pour the gold into the filter. I leave the gold in the bottom of the coffee pot and rinse it with DISTILLED WATER right in the bottom of the coffee pot.

I then pour the rinse water into the filter paper, but I make sure none of the gold gets into the filter, it stays in the bottom of the container. I rinse it with about 200 or 300 ml Distilled water.

Leave the filter rig set up to filter the rinse water used to transfer the gold to a smaller vessel in this next process.

I save the silver nitrate solution in the filter flask because i want to recover the silver that is dissolved in the solution - don't throw it away as it contains silver.

Most of the base metals are now dissolved in the acid and all that is left in the bottom of the container is nearly pure gold.

Next, I transfer the gold from the coffee pot to a smaller beaker. I use a 1000 ml tall form beaker. I use a squirt bottle to carefully wash all the gold from the coffee pot to the 1000 ml tall form beaker.

I then pour off the rinse water into the same filter i used earlier to filter the silver nitrate.

Now I measure about 100 to 150 ml concentrated nitric acid and add it to the beaker with the gold that I just transferd. Edit for additional information; I have been advised by one of the moderators that adding concentrated nitric acid produces no benefit, and could do harm from popping steam bubbles spitting hot acid and gold out of your reaction vessel! It is best to add an equal amount of distilled water WITH the acid in this step. By using diluted acid, you can actually boil the liquid with no problems - I often repeat this step several times until my dilute acid is almost colorless and no more fumes are produced. Save the used acid as it can be used for digesting silver in a later process.

DO NOT set the beaker directly on the heating element. Put a corningware casserole dish on the hot plate, then set the beaker inside the corningware dish. This will evenly distribute the heat and catch any liquid in case you have a boil over.

Start with low heat - make sure and do it outside. There will be more red fumes. Cover the beaker with a watch glass or glass saucer. Don't leave it unattended.

The concentrated acid will dissolve some left over silver and base metals the first reaction missed. Do not crush the chunks of gold as stated earlier - let the acid do all the work. Edit for additional information; make sure to use DILUTED acid - a mixture of 50% concentrated nitric acid and 50% distilled water by volume - using concentrated nitric acid here could be dangerous as the acid may erupt from the reaction vessel spitting hot acid and gold on you!

Adding too much heat to this mixture can cause steam bubbles to form little explosions that will spit hot acid and gold out of your container - so make sure and put a watch glass on the beaker and add the heat slowly. Edit for additional information; This problem can be avoided by using DILUTED nitric acid (50/50 nitric acid and distilled water by volume). Use extreme caution when heating acids under any circumstances.

Slowly add more heat until no more fumes are produced and the atmosphere inside the beaker is clear. DO NOT GO OVER HALF way on the hot plate setting or it will spit hot acid and gold all over the place. Edit for additional information; As stated earlier, this problem can be avoided by using DILUTE acid in this step. The dilute acid can actually be boiled with no problems. I often leave the gold on the heat boiling in the dilute acid for an hour or longer.

Do not leave the beaker unattended - as soon as you leave, the little eruptions will start and you will come back to a mess of acid and gold all over the place (see attached photo of one of my mishaps below). Edit for additional information; This mishap illustrates perfectly why concentrated nitric acid should not be used. I have never had this happen since I started using dilute (50/50 nitric acid/distilled water) for this step.


If you begin to hear little pops and eruptions inside the beaker, then immediately remove the container from the heat and turn the hot plate setting down to a lower temperature.

Once the heat is lowered and the eruptions have ceased, return the beaker to the heat and continue the reaction until there are no more fumes inside the covered beaker.

After all fumes have ceased (about 15 minutes to 1/2 hour, but sometimes longer) remove from the heat and allow it to cool.

Once the mixture has cooled, I pour off the acid into a container with a lid (I use a 500 ml flask with a ground glass stopper I got off ebay).

I save this acid for dissolving silver later on in another process. The acid is still good and probably contains a little silver.

I rinse the now almost 99% pure gold in plenty of distilled water. I do not save the rinse water, but you can as it may contain a small amount of silver.

The gold is now ready to be dissolved in Aquq Regia.

That is all I have time for right now.

I am sharing this as my experience in refining gold. I hope I have not made any mistakes - but if I have then please let me know.

I have refined about 20 or 25 troy ounce of pure gold since I have started back in Sep of 2010. I am still new to refining.

Thanks for looking, any input as to correctness would be greatly appreciated.

kadriver
 

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Excellent procedure summary! I for one appreciate your detailed explanation and the layout of your procedure. Many thanks!
 
kadriver said:
I rinse the now almost 99% pure gold in plenty of distilled water. I do not save the rinse water.

i think you should, just add them to the first nitic leach, the rinse water can still hold some silver.
other than that, your process seems flawless.
 
I also use a 3m respirator I bought at Lowes for about $30. It very effectively filters out the gas so I don't have to breath even a little. i use it when ever I am doing these reactions and handling the acids.

Are you 100% certain the respirator you bought is rated for nitric acid fumes?

From any MSDS sheets I have read an "air supplied respirator" is required.

(Spelling edit)
 
:cry: {heavy sigh} i broke the lid of my Pyrex coffee pot - I visit every garage sale I can but they are HARD to find {sniff. sniff}[me weeping]
 
qst42know said:
I also use a 3m respirator I bought at Lowes for about $30. It very effectively filters out the gas so I don't have to breath even a little. i use it when ever I am doing these reactions and handling the acids.

Are you 100% certain the resperator you bought is rated for nitric acid fumes?

From any MSDS sheets I have read an "air supplied respirator" is required.


Maybe it's just filtering the smell, so you don't realize what you are breathing. It would be worth checking out to make sure.
 
You folks were right about the respirator - I checked and it does not filter harmful fumes. It will filter particles and aerosols - but it will NOT filter the gas.

I have removed the reference to using a respirator.

I have been so busy, I want to add the rest of the process - soon.

Thanks - kadriver
 
I use a 3M 6800 Full face respirator with the acid gas filter cartridges. They are rated for S02, HCL, Cl, ClO2, H2S. Not Nitric fumes or Nitric Oxides though. But that's why I built a fume hood. 8)
 
I'm unsure if it's just me, but this picture doesn't look right to me.

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It looks like you formed oxides on top of your inquarted gold. It happened to me in the past.

If you successfully dissolved silver and base metals, you would end up with a very fine black/brown powder.

Also, your Aqua Regia solution would be yellow/orange, not blue or green.

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Did you weigh your gold after the Nitric acid dissolution ?
 
Noxx said:
I'm unsure if it's just me, but this picture doesn't look right to me.

This happens to me sometimes but its all good. Sometimes inquarted shot stays in one piece but is still digested. I bet when kadriver poked at this shot it broke apart into the fine black dust we are all so accustomed to seeing. My guess is that the reaction wasn't violent enough to break it all apart. Could also be that the reaction wasn't 100% completed but very very close.
 
Noxx said:
If you successfully dissolved silver and base metals, you would end up with a very fine black/brown powder.
Noxx,
It's far more desirable to end up as he did. When you end up with fine particles, you have issues with settling---often equating to losses. When the material remains intact, you can change solutions with reckless abandon, secure in the knowledge that you aren't losing any gold. Comes in handy when you wish to give the remains a final boil in fresh acid.

Note the deep brown color of his cornflakes after the nitric digest. That's a sign that the remains border on falling apart, so they have been well penetrated by nitric (I'm assuming he has heated the dilute nitric to boiling---which was my routine). The only real negative by processing this way is that you have a little difficulty rinsing out all of the silver and base metals, but that's a small problem compared to inquarting such that the material crumbles. Yes, it tends to carry with it a trace of silver and base metal, but with double refining, that's not much of an issue, either.

I always advise that the material remain intact. In my opinion, he's done an exemplary job.

Harold
 
Harold_V said:
The only real negative by processing this way is that you have a little difficulty rinsing out all of the silver and base metals, but that's a small problem compared to inquarting such that the material crumbles. Yes, it tends to carry with it a trace of silver and base metal, but with double refining, that's not much of an issue, either.

Somtimes i get uneven shots, so the bigger ones doesn't get good penetration of the acid so i need to crush them and boil the nitric, so i just crush all of the shots.
When this is done i filter everything using vacuum, then wash with d. water and throw the filter into AR, upon boiling the filter is gone and no apparent losses are experienced.
 
Not a bad system if you don't mind filtering unnecessarily. As far as the need to crush, if you inquart properly, that doesn't happen, even with heavy cross sections. I successfully dissolved copper from gold wire that was 40% gold by prolonged heating. Set your sights on 25% gold and it's a piece of cake (or is that Bob's your uncle?).

Once I put the inquarted gold in a beaker, it left only after it was dissolved and ready for filtration, and while I hoped to eliminate all base metals entirely, traces that didn't rinse out were perfectly acceptable to me, because all of my gold received proper washing and then a second refining. Traces that may make it through the first refining were eliminated in the second refining. Considering I ran multiple batches simultaneously, not uncommon at all to have eight or more beakers in process at a time. For me, not having filtration to tend was a plus.

The concern I'd have with filtration is that once you've broken the gold down to fine powder, unless you use a very slow paper, some gets through the filter. Also, if you've processed anything that tends to create filtration problems, you can find yourself with a solution that won't filter readily, even with vacuum assist. Processing gold filled materials is a good example.

On occasion I would inquart improperly, and would end up with fine particles of gold. The only thing that slowed me down more than that was encountering tin.

It's obvious, each method has its plusses and minuses----neither of them necessarily right or wrong. I expect each person will pick that one that best fits their needs, and, indeed, both may be used, depending on circumstances.

Harold
 
Thanks to all the wonderful info you all post. I really appreciate it, being a beginner. I only have lots of scrap jewelery and some good knowledge about inorganic chemistry at this point. Working on setting up a metals lab in the outdoors shed.
 
Harold_V said:
On occasion I would inquart improperly, and would end up with fine particles of gold. The only thing that slowed me down more than that was encountering tin.

Harold

Harold, when you mentioned inquarting improperly, exactly what did you mean? Too much silver? Not enough?

Thank you - kadriver

Sorry about not getting the rest of the process on here. I will do it this week.

Also - a bar from a single refining I just finished at 3am - just under 3 troy ounces - a small speck of flux is what the dot is.
 

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Not to speak for Harold, but i think he ment that an un even alloy was produced.
That can produce, for example a prill of 3K alloy and its neighbor being 8K alloy...

I know you are sending it to a refiner so its probably doesn't matter to you, but the bar have a clear oxidation tale tale signs.
 
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