Wanted to buy crucibles with holder handle

any suggestions on the best ones to buy and were from, or does someone here have some good used ones to sell off. Can pay with paypal, MO or check whatever you want. would like a descent beginner model with a deep cone shape and handles that hold securely.

PM me please

tim

Lots of places to buy crucibles but I can't say the same about crucible tongs. They are not as readily available as crucibles and it's no wonder not many companies make them because of the varying shapes and sizes in crucibles. Pliers can go a long way with small melting dishes and small crucibles, but for the big crucibles you will need a properly fitting set of tongs made for the size of crucible you have. I started out with a #6 and I'm now using a #16 and have made my own tongs for each, though I have redesigned my #16 tongs based on some observations I made in regards to weight distribution and leverage.

Crucible or melting dish?

Palladium said:

Crucible or melting dish?

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Well I can definately make stuff, so making up some tongs shouldn't be a big deal. So I've seen on youtube people using crucibles for melting, and the flat style melting dishs also, what exactly is the difference. I wouldn't think that you would melt in one, and pour in the other, then pour into your mold.
Or should i have both, i just figured a crucible would hold the metal better when your trying to melt it down. Or is a crucible only for a oven?

Thanks for the help guys

Tim

This might help.

http://www.lmine.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=LMS&Category_Code=assay_tools

What are you using as a heat source for melting? How much are you trying to melt at one time? What size bars are you trying to pour?

just small amounts in my work shop. ounce or less.

ilikesilver said:

just small amounts in my work shop. ounce or less.

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Then all you need is a melting dish, torch, pair of pliers, and some good insulation. melt and pour.

Eric

etack said:

ilikesilver said:

just small amounts in my work shop. ounce or less.

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Then all you need is a melting dish, torch, pair of pliers, and some good insulation. melt and pour.

Eric

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Yep. That's all you'll need if you're doing just 1 oz or close to it at a time.

By the way, I don't recall seeing crucibles with handles on them. I'll do a search for them. I guess that would be nice, especially with working with large amounts of metals that need to be poured fast before they hardened.

Kevin

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3902.m570.l1313&_nkw=melting+dish+tongs&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Palladium said:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3902.m570.l1313&_nkw=melting+dish+tongs&_sacat=0&_from=R40

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Well Duhh!! :lol:

I was literally thinking about handles on the crucibles. I've seen those from the beginning of my refining stages..... which I still need to get me some.

Palladium.... nice one.

I'm almost sure they make them in different sizes for the crucibles with the handles.

Once again, I've learned something "NEW" today... Palladium... twice today.

I love this forum. It's been so inspirational just being here, even if I don't post anything. I learn just by reading and taking the advice of the members.

Kevin

Hang around me long and i will teach you how make coffee in a buchner funnel and how to drink it out of a 500ml griffin beaker. :mrgreen:

Palladium said:

Hang around me long and i will teach you how make coffee in a buchner funnel and how to drink it out of a 500ml griffin beaker. :mrgreen:

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:lol: :lol: :lol: . I have no doubt you can pull that one off. Thanks for your teachings here. I appreciate it very much.

Kevin

testerman said:

etack said:

ilikesilver said:

just small amounts in my work shop. ounce or less.

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Then all you need is a melting dish, torch, pair of pliers, and some good insulation. melt and pour.

Eric

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Yep. That's all you'll need if you're doing just 1 oz or close to it at a time.

By the way, I don't recall seeing crucibles with handles on them. I'll do a search for them. I guess that would be nice, especially with working with large amounts of metals that need to be poured fast before they hardened.

Kevin

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Kevin believe it or not large volumes of metal stay molten longer in my experience its the small melts that need pouring quickly, when I was making karat shot I could pour 3 kilos very easily but struggled with 100 grams.

nickvc said:

testerman said:

etack said:

ilikesilver said:

just small amounts in my work shop. ounce or less.

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Then all you need is a melting dish, torch, pair of pliers, and some good insulation. melt and pour.

Eric

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Yep. That's all you'll need if you're doing just 1 oz or close to it at a time.

By the way, I don't recall seeing crucibles with handles on them. I'll do a search for them. I guess that would be nice, especially with working with large amounts of metals that need to be poured fast before they hardened.

Kevin

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Kevin believe it or not large volumes of metal stay molten longer in my experience its the small melts that need pouring quickly, when I was making karat shot I could pour 3 kilos very easily but struggled with 100 grams.

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I can believe that.

Kevin

The more mass there is the longer it takes to cool.

http://www.lacywest.com/
not spamming I just think they have fair price's on supplies, lots to stuff to wish for, its like reading the ole sears catalog in the outhouse, but this one is for jewelers, they also have some interesting tutorials.

butcher said:

http://www.lacywest.com/
not spamming I just think they have fair price's on supplies, lots to stuff to wish for, its like reading the ole sears catalog in the outhouse, but this one is for jewelers, they also have some interesting tutorials.

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Thanks Butcher, I bookmarked that site. I have two 8 oz cylinderical crucibles and I made handes for them. I had some 1/16" thick x 1/2" wide steel and old file handles so didn't have to foot out any more money.

Pouring 8 oz is a little different than 2 or 4 ozs! But the resultant bars tend to look better. I've started using the larger bars as anode bars.

Mike

I use an oil filter wrench very similar to this type for hot melting dish handling. I use the thick straight side dishes. http://www.google.ca/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=1536&bih=762&tbm=isch&tbnid=WYhniFB1fMATtM:&imgrefurl=http://www.americastoolwarehouse.com/automotive-tools/OTC-4562.html&docid=Sj2TCl0YaqPvjM&imgurl=http://www.americastoolwarehouse.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/otc-4562.gif&w=450&h=300&ei=P94mUZqyHYXf0gHt_YDwDA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,i:151&iact=rc&dur=1162&sig=118094861247039441240&page=1&tbnh=184&tbnw=276&start=0&ndsp=22&tx=136&ty=62

mikeinkaty said:

butcher said:

http://www.lacywest.com/
not spamming I just think they have fair price's on supplies, lots to stuff to wish for, its like reading the ole sears catalog in the outhouse, but this one is for jewelers, they also have some interesting tutorials.

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Thanks Butcher, I bookmarked that site. I have two 8 oz cylinderical crucibles and I made handes for them. I had some 1/16" thick x 1/2" wide steel and old file handles so didn't have to foot out any more money.

Pouring 8 oz is a little different than 2 or 4 ozs! But the resultant bars tend to look better. I've started using the larger bars as anode bars.

Mike

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Mike you have now found out why it's near impossible to pour really nice 10 gram or whatever bars the metal cools and the edges just don't fill but 1 kilo melts and bars are easy, step up the size of your bars again and they will look even better, ain't nature wonderful!