Bluebloomer
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A friend of mine quit his gold recovery hobby and we traded some items. He tried to explain as best he could, what was what and now I got some plastic buckets with old AP, old AR, and a some other jars with liquids.
Some of the issues I identified already, I was hoping you guys could give me some answers on how to move further and solve the issues:
1: He used Poor Man's AR (KNO3) to dissolve the gold from ceramic CPU's. A lot of around 40. All gold seems to be dissolved but, he forgot to filter off the AgCl, so now I'm stuck with a nice layer of precipitated gold, with a layer of silver chloride. How can I best separate the two ? Should I just convert the AgCl with NaOh, or H2SO4 and use nitric to remove the silver ? And will I not lose gold this way ?
2 My friend used too much H2O2 in AP, in some cases he made a 50/50 mix and in some cases he used 6% H2O2, and now I have this 50 litre lot of dirty brown AP, with some gold dissolved in it.
Is it possible to recover gold from an AP soluton with too much and too strong hydrogen peroxide, or is the gold just lost ? Since cementing with copper is no option, what options are there, if there are any.
3. He also tried to remove the solder mask of some gold plated boards, like the pcb's in the picture. After he boiled the boards in hot NaOh with some 6% H2O2 he discovered a lot of the gold plating is gone, and he is sure it is in the NaOh solution. The solution has a thick black precipiate on the bottom, could this be soms cemented gold because of the copper, iron and tin? He cooked the boards with a parts still on them, thinking to remove the parts on the pcb and remove the solder mask aswell. Where the gold plating used to be, there is now this with plastic strip where the gold once was, other boards are plain black, this could also be precipitated gold with base metals? And how to clean up that mess ?
4. A jar with 1 litre of bown AP had a scoop of SMB added and gave a thick with precipitant at the bottom, I'm thinking it could be lead from the solder, as he used unpopulated boards. My friend thinks it was silver chloride, but I think it can not be SNCl, but it has to be a contaminent contaminant from the base metals, or a copper salt ?
I will take it 1 project at a time, but every bit if information would help in labeling the jars and buckets with steps to do in the future.
Thanks, and I know it's a lot, my friend realy got in over his head and he figured out gold recovery like this was not for him..
Some of the issues I identified already, I was hoping you guys could give me some answers on how to move further and solve the issues:
1: He used Poor Man's AR (KNO3) to dissolve the gold from ceramic CPU's. A lot of around 40. All gold seems to be dissolved but, he forgot to filter off the AgCl, so now I'm stuck with a nice layer of precipitated gold, with a layer of silver chloride. How can I best separate the two ? Should I just convert the AgCl with NaOh, or H2SO4 and use nitric to remove the silver ? And will I not lose gold this way ?
2 My friend used too much H2O2 in AP, in some cases he made a 50/50 mix and in some cases he used 6% H2O2, and now I have this 50 litre lot of dirty brown AP, with some gold dissolved in it.
Is it possible to recover gold from an AP soluton with too much and too strong hydrogen peroxide, or is the gold just lost ? Since cementing with copper is no option, what options are there, if there are any.
3. He also tried to remove the solder mask of some gold plated boards, like the pcb's in the picture. After he boiled the boards in hot NaOh with some 6% H2O2 he discovered a lot of the gold plating is gone, and he is sure it is in the NaOh solution. The solution has a thick black precipiate on the bottom, could this be soms cemented gold because of the copper, iron and tin? He cooked the boards with a parts still on them, thinking to remove the parts on the pcb and remove the solder mask aswell. Where the gold plating used to be, there is now this with plastic strip where the gold once was, other boards are plain black, this could also be precipitated gold with base metals? And how to clean up that mess ?
4. A jar with 1 litre of bown AP had a scoop of SMB added and gave a thick with precipitant at the bottom, I'm thinking it could be lead from the solder, as he used unpopulated boards. My friend thinks it was silver chloride, but I think it can not be SNCl, but it has to be a contaminent contaminant from the base metals, or a copper salt ?
I will take it 1 project at a time, but every bit if information would help in labeling the jars and buckets with steps to do in the future.
Thanks, and I know it's a lot, my friend realy got in over his head and he figured out gold recovery like this was not for him..