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cell phone boards

Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 2:57 pm

when i put my cell phone board in the Aqua regia what should i expect to see after the gold has been removed.


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Postby jimdoc » October 23rd, 2012, 3:08 pm

kevinlb63 wrote:when i put my cell phone board in the Aqua regia what should i expect to see after the gold has been removed.


You should not put whole cell phone boards in aqua regia. You should expect a mess if you do.
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:12 pm

the ic chip and caps are removed that are clean will that make a diferance

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Postby jimdoc » October 23rd, 2012, 3:15 pm

kevinlb63 wrote:the ic chip and caps are removed that are clean will that make a diferance


Nope, you still have to study the forum.

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Postby jimdoc » October 23rd, 2012, 3:16 pm

Also, are we really talking about one cell phone board?

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Re: cell phone boards

Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:17 pm

how would you get the gold of of them!

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Postby goldsilverpro » October 23rd, 2012, 3:19 pm

The gold from 1 cell phone is so small that it will likely get lost in the shuffle, especially if you don't know what you're doing, which seems to be the case.

How many hours have you spent searching the forum for information on how to do this. It's all there.
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Re: cell phone boards

Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:21 pm

200 clean boards with about 20% of them being gold plated

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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:23 pm

that is 20% of each board

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Postby goldsilverpro » October 23rd, 2012, 3:31 pm

Unless the gold is on fingers or pins, it is very, very thin. Figure about 7 or 8 cents for each square inch of plated area.
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:36 pm

last month i sent off 200 boards and got back 1.100.00 the the check was for 19 grams of gold from the 200 boards so i thought i could do it my self and make more than that.

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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:38 pm

like you state "The refiner is always the last liar." i think there is more money to be made if you do it yourself.

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Postby jimdoc » October 23rd, 2012, 3:39 pm

kevinlb63 wrote:last month i sent off 200 boards and got back 1.100.00 the the check was for 19 grams of gold from the 200 boards so i thought i could do it my self and make more than that.



I highly doubt that. What type of phones were they?
Can you post pictures of the ones you have now if they are similar?

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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:49 pm

mostly motorola lg just about all makes the gold on all cell phones is 18k or better i acid check all my boards i have been recycling 20 years but have just got into
gold recycling back in 2010 to now

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Postby Geo » October 23rd, 2012, 3:49 pm

kevinlb63 wrote:last month i sent off 200 boards and got back 1.100.00 the the check was for 19 grams of gold from the 200 boards so i thought i could do it my self and make more than that.


theres no way that happened.according to all the yield data ive been able to find, it takes closer to 2,000 cellphones (boards and chips) to make an ounce of gold. 200 cellphones should yield a third maybe 3g. without the components, less than that.

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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 3:58 pm

"The refiner is always the last liar." the mccs you get your palladium your ics youy get more gold each phone has 3.50 to 400+ worth of gold that is at the price of gold today. you looking at old prices

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Postby jimdoc » October 23rd, 2012, 4:01 pm

kevinlb63 wrote:"The refiner is always the last liar." the mccs you get your palladium your ics youy get more gold each phone has 3.50 to 400+ worth of gold that is at the price of gold today. you looking at old prices


Where did you find your info?
A Youtube video?

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Postby Geo » October 23rd, 2012, 4:04 pm

im not talking dollar value, im talking metal weight. the dollar value can change, but weight will remain the same. theres just not that much in a cellphone. i just did a lot and even though im getting the last little amounts of metal from the spent solutions, i can promise you from my own experience that the numbers you are reporting is false.

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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 4:55 pm

i just checked again and was right!! there is a average of .034+ grams of gold in each cell phone and that ant counting the ic chips 15 boards would = .51+ gram or 1/2+ of a gram. 13.3 times that = 6.5+ grams per 200 phones plus with the ic chips and mcc,s would get me right on the money. you data might be right! but plus the ic chip and other gold in the phone it comes out very close i know what the check was for and it was for $1.100.00 just like jim says the refiner will lie over and over 200 good cell phones got me 1.100.00 but next time it might be less but not to much less. the price of gold is not every going to be less than 1700 a oz. and cell phones and all gold plated e scrap is worth big money.

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Postby glondor » October 23rd, 2012, 5:29 pm

Was your sale for 200 cell phones or for 200 cell phone boards? If you had 200 cell phones, I suppose it is not unreasonable to get 5 bucks each for working phones. If it was for cell phone boards,,, you gotta let us all know who the buyer is.
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 5:38 pm

THIS IS 5.2 OZ,S OF 14K I GOT FROM 20 POUNDS OF 386 CPUS USING Aqua regia $3.300.00 WAS PAID TO ME FOR THEM ! I THINK THAT IS GOOD MONEY FOR ONE WEEKS WORTH OF WORK,
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 5:43 pm

IT WAS FOR THE BOARDS AND CHIPS AND THE MCC,S I GESS THAY MENT FOR ALL THE METAL GOLD PLATINUM AND PALLADIUM. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST FOR THE GOLD

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Postby glondor » October 23rd, 2012, 5:54 pm

Loose the all caps. It is considered shouting.

14k from 386's ? How did you end up with 14k? In my experience....it just does not work like that. How were they processed? Something is not right ....

By the way 5.2 oz troy of 14k is worth $5200 dollars US at today's market.

I am calling BS here Nothing makes sense. Is it just me??
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Postby ericrm » October 23rd, 2012, 5:59 pm

not just you glondor..... BUT i interested to sell you(kevinlb63) my cellphone board if your saying truth .get me a pm if you buy, of course paypal upfront payment only
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Postby goldsilverpro » October 23rd, 2012, 9:55 pm

I can see (barely) the possibility of a value of $3300 from 20# of 386s, but I can't see what the refiner made on it. The 14K thing is BS unless you created it. They have never used 14K gold plating on any electronic components. Ever! They don't even use the term, "karat".
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 23rd, 2012, 11:30 pm

look i have 10k acid 14k 18k and 22k the gold pased a10k test and 14k test ! but it did not pas a 18k test. so i was paid afor 14 k gold and that is all i know he said it had silver in it.i told him i was told to put silver in it to help clean it up! he said i was mislead he said i should have not put any thing in it. and it would have been 22k or higher. and i just dont get the naysayers on here , i am here to learn and not to teach. i got 20.00 a gram at $3.224.00 for 5.2 oz,s but he gave me $3,300.00 i came on here to learn and every one has been sarcastic. and by the way the gold on 386 and 486 cpus and motherboards can be tested with acid to. and all i have tested have tested have been 18k or better.

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kevinlb63 wrote:look i have 10k acid 14k 18k and 22k the gold pased a10k test and 14k test ! but it did not pas a 18k test. so i was paid afor 14 k gold and that is all i know he said it had silver in it.i told him i was told to put silver in it to help clean it up! he said i was mislead he said i should have not put any thing in it. and it would have been 22k or higher. and i just dont get the naysayers on here , i am here to learn and not to teach. i got 20.00 a gram at $3.224.00 for 5.2 oz,s but he gave me $3,300.00 i came on here to learn and every one has been sarcastic. and by the way the gold on 386 and 486 cpus and motherboards can be tested with acid to. and all i have tested have tested have been 18k or better.


If you seriously came here to learn, then you need to study the forum for a while.
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Postby Smack » October 23rd, 2012, 11:50 pm

It would be a whole lot better all the way around if you would just post a file of the assay/report from the "refiner". By the way the implication that you are the teacher here is beyond comprehension. Your throwing numbers at us that none of us has ever seen processing the same type of material and you expect us to just take you at your word? Never heard of not even a hobbyist processing the types of material you mention and mixing them together, why would you mix these kind of metals together unless you were making dore bars. I would look for a different refiner. This is not meant to offend you in any way, but if you are, you should move past it and show us the facts. If you can't provide the facts then it's safe to assume we will all move past this thing.
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 24th, 2012, 6:34 am

glondor wrote:Loose the all caps. It is considered shouting.

14k from 386's ? How did you end up with 14k? In my experience....it just does not work like that. How were they processed? Something is not right ....

By the way 5.2 oz troy of 14k is worth $5200 dollars US at today's market.

I am calling BS here Nothing makes sense. Is it just me??


i did not know any one was paying top dollor for 14k scrap. 14k is 58% gold 42% copper but that ant what any body is paying $5.200 that would be 1000.00+ a oz for 14k .
gold is at $57.00 a gram right now 57x 31=1.767 a oz and that is for 999 pure. i got payed $20.00 a gram for the 14k i had that way he makes money to! all pawn shop and gold buyer are giving 14.00 a gram for 10k and 20.00 a gram for 14k and 25 to $26.00 for 18k and 30 to $32.00 for 22. if it is 24k thay might pay $40.00 a gram thay are not going to give you full price, if thay did thay would not make money.
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Postby kevinlb63 » October 24th, 2012, 7:18 am

Smack wrote:It would be a whole lot better all the way around if you would just post a file of the assay/report from the "refiner". By the way the implication that you are the teacher here is beyond comprehension. Your throwing numbers at us that none of us has ever seen processing the same type of material and you expect us to just take you at your word? Never heard of not even a hobbyist processing the types of material you mention and mixing them together, why would you mix these kind of metals together unless you were making dore bars. I would look for a different refiner. This is not meant to offend you in any way, but if you are, you should move past it and show us the facts. If you can't provide the facts then it's safe to assume we will all move past this thing.


who said i was the teacher here i did not say that! i said i was here to learn,,,, i had close to pure gold in my aqua regia solution and was tould to put silver in it so i put a little over 2 oz,s in it and it ended up being 14k instead of 24k i gess the guy helping me online was playing a joke on me and i no now not to put any other metal in it at all. i will just use the stump out! and be done with it and have close to pure gold. any way i came on here to ask if it would work if i put my clean cell phones board in aqua regia to get the gold off and then! when the gold is off pull the boards out of the solution and then process what is left in the reaction chamber? can i do it that way? that was the original question! and i got led down all this way. can i get a answer will it work that way? i have two reaction chambers hooked to my wet scrubber so i dont have to breath any gasses.


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