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Youngmogul

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I'm looking for a supplier of computer connecter pins only.. As in, they have already been harvested from the connecters/boards.. Or... If anyone can point me in the direction of the maker of these pins that connecter manufacturers buy them from, that would be even better.... I seen a thread where someone was claiming to buy them for .25/ lb? I'd like to find them for a price like that, but doubt its happening. I've looked on ebay.... But im not payin 40-70 bucks a pound. Thanks in advance!

Dustin
 
Dustin welcome to the forum,having read your posts it seems to me you want to run before you have learned to crawl.There is money in refining but most times its hard earned and only comes when you have an idea of the processes and costs involved.Read the threads on all the questions you have posted, read Hoke which is available as a free download and check out lazersteves website then come back and post questions.There is no Eldorado here, but help is available to point you in the right direction, but you need to do your homework first.
 
Youngmogul said:
I seen a thread where someone was claiming to buy them for .25/ lb?
Considering the scrap value of the bare pin is worth much more, to say nothing of the value of the gold, you likely understand that what you're saying simply isn't true.

Nick has given you some excellent advice. I suggest you follow it closely. Very closely.

Harold
 
Well thanks for the insight guys! Yeah, maybe trying to get in over my head :p I just watched two seperate 1 lb lots sell for 72 and 76 bucks on ebay... Then thought to myself.. Heck, I could get some low grade pins, electro-dip them in my mini tank and be off to the races.. Im sure I could give them a good shine with about 5 bucks worth of 24k gold solution... Sort of creating the egg before the chicken though.. But yeah, guess I'll hit the books before I make a move. Thanks again for the insight.
 
Youngmogul said:
Well thanks for the insight guys! Yeah, maybe trying to get in over my head :p I just watched two seperate 1 lb lots sell for 72 and 76 bucks on ebay... Then thought to myself.. Heck, I could get some low grade pins, electro-dip them in my mini tank and be off to the races.. Im sure I could give them a good shine with about 5 bucks worth of 24k gold solution... Sort of creating the egg before the chicken though.. But yeah, guess I'll hit the books before I make a move. Thanks again for the insight.

Looks like the gold bug has struck again.

Doing this I feel is not very ethical to do. You are taking something plated from the mfg and replating it with more gold to try and sell. I am not sure if you can do this as well as the mfg. And I don't feek you will get your money back that you spend on the replating.

Work on the 125 computers you have, you are going to be surprised at the amount of time you will have invested in getting to all the parts that have PM's in them. I tried to find a couple of post's that breaks down what are in the boards last night but it was late and I was tired. I will find them and post in your original thread when I find the info.
 
Now thats salting the mine, seems that is very unethical, been done for centuries though.

Me thinks that practice would get the word about about you pretty quick.

Jim
 
goldsilverpro said:
Plus the fact that you are obviously not capable of plating those pins so they would look anywhere realistic.

I intention is to say gold plated, guess you could even do that if they were flash plated or poorly plated.

jim
 
Am I a thief? I should surley hope not! On a realistic arguement, where in any of these posts could you acquire enough knowledge about a person to question their moral terpitude? The ethical question concerning re-plating the pins so that some hobbiest can enjoy himself/herself is not even substantial enough to explain purpose, but I will... It's no more unethical than the companies that produce gold plated coins, quote "each coin is covered in at least 30Mg of pure 24K gold". At 19.95 each plus S+P , Now THAT is unethical. Like anything else, it is the consumers' responsibility to educate themselves before making a purchase. If someone was purchasing a 1 Lb lot of pins, what type of information about the lot is available for that purchaser to make an educated purchase? NON, other tha the fact that they came from a computer connection. The consumer is generally making a WAGER.. How much is the market willing to bear, for the chance that there is more value in gold than price paid... Just because I thought about making some duller looking pins, shine like the dickens, doesnt mean that I am crossing any line that would make me a thief, or unethical. Whats unethical, is to make a purchase without knowing EXACTLY what you are purchasing.

While on the subject, Is it not the same unethical aura that surrounds a consumer gold buyer? Lets offer an individual half spot price because they know no better... Of course its NOT unethical... Because there is a market for it, and the needs of the seller are met. The same goes for pawn shops, and payday loans. They mght be ravaging scavengers that oppress the working class, but they are a service that only exists because there is a market that keeps them alive.

So no, just because I decide to make some pins a little more shiney for the picture, I dont think that is unethical at all... Guilding has and will continue to happen forever. What WOULD be unethical, is to send a completely different batch of pins then the ones shown in the picture.


My business experience to date:
I own 3 Major fast food franchises, A 100% organic Cattle company, 2 seperate little league organizations, Founder and operations manager of well respected Non-Profit endowment, Real-Estate Broker/Investor... MBA from Wharton School of Finance.


There is a major difference between unethical business and participating in business as a Capitalist. Defining that differance is the hard part, and once defined, wealth will flow beyond you imagination.


Dustin
 
It is unethical because you are trying to decieve, you said so in your opening statement. You stated you wanted to buy cheap pins for .25lb and pass them off as real gold plated pins that sell for 70 or so per lb.

It is bad enough that the people over pay for real material, let alone material ment to look like real material but not be.

It does not matter what businesses you own or what you do, that is what your statement implied you want to do. That is the same as buying a old gold mine and putting a little gold in it to sell it.

You also must know that a lot of people here have much experience and can spot things from mile away.

Jim
 
Dustin said:
My business experience to date:
I own 3 Major fast food franchises, A 100% organic Cattle company, 2 seperate little league organizations, Founder and operations manager of well respected Non-Profit endowment, Real-Estate Broker/Investor... MBA from Wharton School of Finance.

Dustin

With all of the above, why do you feel the need to do the slight of hand you are thinking of?

Jim

"While on the subject, Is it not the same unethical aura that surrounds a consumer gold buyer? Lets offer an individual half spot price because they know no better... Of course its NOT unethical... Because there is a market for it, and the needs of the seller are met. The same goes for pawn shops, and payday loans. They mght be ravaging scavengers that oppress the working class, but they are a service that only exists because there is a market that keeps them alive. "

Pawnshops do not try and make you think you are getting a good deal.
Also, just because cash 4 gold gives low prices or anyone else doing the same, taking advantage of someone is unethical and just because others are doing it does not make it any less so. If you fall in the mud with a hundred other people you are still covered in mud.

Now, if by some chance I have missinterpetted your post then I am truely sorry.

Jim
 
Its not the idea of "faking" the pins... And the amount of money someone has is irrelevant. Let me ask a question, What would be the difference in me electroplating pins then selling them for what the market will bear, and another guy selling them without giving any knowledge about them other than they came from a computer? Just because I took the added step in re-plating them, ADDING GOLD TO THEM, before I sold them, How am I now "unethical"?

I am not deceiving ANYONE. Its clearly stated on numerous places on the forum that pins bear different amounts of gold. Just because I take some not so shiny ones, and make them shine more...

Have you never bought a crummy looking car from a private owner, then cleaned it up a bit, then re-sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a struggling business, turned it around, then sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a house that looked like crap, fixed it then flipped it? SAME THING

All the things mentioned have the same theory, an item was sold for a profit, because someone had the skill-set required to "guild" the item while it was in their possession.
 
Have you never bought a crummy looking car from a private owner, then cleaned it up a bit, then re-sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a struggling business, turned it around, then sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a house that looked like crap, fixed it then flipped it? SAME THING


It is not the same, in the above you took something of low actual value, added to and made something that was infact more valuable.

You will do, what you will do. I am done trying to convince you of problem with what you intend to do.

Have a good day, and may forgiveness be upon you.

Jim
 
Youngmogul said:
Its not the idea of "faking" the pins... And the amount of money someone has is irrelevant. Let me ask a question, What would be the difference in me electroplating pins then selling them for what the market will bear, and another guy selling them without giving any knowledge about them other than they came from a computer? Just because I took the added step in re-plating them, ADDING GOLD TO THEM, before I sold them, How am I now "unethical"?

I am not deceiving ANYONE. Its clearly stated on numerous places on the forum that pins bear different amounts of gold. Just because I take some not so shiny ones, and make them shine more...

It sounds more like you would want to take a dirty batch of pins and polish them and resell them rather than replate them.Polishing them you could do in a tumbler with media and then use a screen to sift and then resell them.

To reelectroplate them there are numerous variables you would have to keep track of.
1. Cleaning the pins in an acid solution for the new gold to adhere properly.
A. Cleaning the contaminants from the dirty pins that go into soultion.
B. Keeping PH adjusted properly.
C. Keeping temperature in check.
D. Keeping your voltage and amperage in check if it is included in your process.

2. I might be wrong about this but you will possibly have to plate them with a new material like nickle to give a good even coat for the new gold to stick to and have the quality you are desireing to sell.
A. Cleaning the contaminants that go into soultion.
B. Keeping PH adjusted properly.
C. Keeping temperature in check.
D. Keeping your voltage and amperage in check in your process.
E. Develope a saturated solution of nickle to plate onto the pins.
F. You would have to have a supply of new nickle feeding the solution to keep the concentration consistant.
G. you will probably have to set up a tumbler cell to acomplish this and get an even coat on the pins.
H. You will have to keep track of your plating time to keep your thickness consistant.

3. You now have you gold plating solution that you will have to do the same things to.
A. Cleaning the contaminants that go into soultion.
B. Keeping PH adjusted properly.
C. Keeping temperature in check.
D. Keeping your voltage and amperage in check in your process.
E. Develope a saturated solution of nickle to plate onto the pins.
F. You would have to have a supply of new nickle feeding the solution to keep the concentration consistant.
G. you will probably have to set up a tumbler cell to acomplish this and get an even coat on the pins.
H. You will have to keep track of your plating time to keep your thickness consistant.

4. And finally you have your cleaning solution.

Quetion do you know anything about electrical, chemicals, metals, pumps, PH, piping?

Or you could go on Youtube and do a search under plating videos and order one of the kits that are shown for sale and hope the SHIT sticks to your pins. And then you can put them on Ebay and sell them. see how long you last there when people start giving negative feed back about you.




Have you never bought a crummy looking car from a private owner, then cleaned it up a bit, then re-sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a struggling business, turned it around, then sold it for a profit? SAME THING
Bought a house that looked like crap, fixed it then flipped it? SAME THING

Would this be like advertising that you sell hamburgers with 100% Angus Beef. When in realtiy you use Angus in your 3/4lb & 1/2lb burgers, and then use a Herford/Jersey mix for the kids patties because they will not know the diffrence?

All the things mentioned have the same theory, an item was sold for a profit, because someone had the skill-set required to "guild" the item while it was in their possession.


My business experience to date:
I own 3 Major fast food franchises, A 100% organic Cattle company, 2 seperate little league organizations, Founder and operations manager of well respected Non-Profit endowment, Real-Estate Broker/Investor... MBA from Wharton School of Finance.

To acomplish this by the age of 24 is an acomplishment! The food franchises what are they part of a family owned organization that has been developed over a period of years? Organic Cattle. What is this making sure the alfalfa dosen't have any aflatoxin in it? Making sure there are no weed killers used in their feed? No groth hormones? no antibiotics? And a non profit endowment, I'm glad you give something back to your community. Real-Estate broker/investor, So you had to work with someone to recieve your license unless one is not required where you are at. And the Warton school of Finance is impressive as well. Do they teach you about integrity in that school? These are a lot of very fine accomplishments to hang on your shoulders for a gentelman of your age. I whish you luck and prosperity thru the rest of your life.
 
Hey Barrenrealms mentioned animals I'm jumping in

First you said:

Would this be like advertising that you sell hamburgers with 100% Angus Beef. When in realtiy you use Angus in your 3/4lb & 1/2lb burgers, and then use a Herford/Jersey mix for the kids patties because they will not know the diffrence?

I would think that making a specific breed mix would be more expensive.
A Jersey is a milk cow and the steers would probably to converted to veal
plenty of milk and much higher return.

Next
they do not lie it is 100% beef Angus if claimed so, JUst dont know what parts of the steer
they are using

For example Taco Bell Advertises 100% beef, But are also the largest purchaser of
cow eyes and lips in the US, Still Beef!

Organic cattle, we call them cow pastures here.

We are on our way to the 12 teat boar here maybe you have a herd of these also?

Let us know Irons wants to train a 12 teat boar to hunt big butt ants to make formic acid
 
Organic cattle, we call them cow pastures here.

The cow patties you can sell to use in stoves for heating. Or asclay pigeons, but they don't fly straight. You can use them in tossing contest, just make sure you get the hard ones to toss. Possibly use as stepping stones till they decompose.

And there you go making fun of my boars. I have you know they use to make John Holmes blush. You ever seen a cork screwturn around? .!. :twisted:
 
Pigs get to me, I have an uncle missing a big chunk of a calf muscle because of them.
A 300 pound sow can get you!

I had a friend once who put holmes to shame, women would literally run naked from the apartment to get away
 
I forgot they have a charity thing they do around here called cow pie bingo.

what ever square the cow craps in is the next number, it take a few days to play though
 
shadybear said:
Pigs get to me, I have an uncle missing a big chunk of a calf muscle because of them.
A 300 pound sow can get you!

A sow will do that if you try to take her piglets away. Nothing worse than it being 10 deg and a sow have a litter of 12 pigs in a pasture and you have to get them up and in a farrowing crate, and it's 5:00AM! :evil:

They have a soft spot between their eyes that if you don't panic you can take a 1,000 lb animal to thier knees with one hit. But that can seldom happen because they are very quick and smart. And pound for pound one of the strongest animals you will run aginst.

I had a friend once who put holmes to shame, women would literally run naked from the apartment to get away

I'v had the same thing happen to mewhen I take my mask off. :twisted:
 
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