Clostridium tetani bacterium

[joem]

Another safety concern is Clostridium tetani bacterium or common term Tetanus. When working around ewaste and sharp metals it is best to get your vaccine.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/163063.php

 

[Claudie]

It is my understanding that Hydrogen Peroxide will kill Tetanus. The Oxygen kills it. The only time there would be a danger is if it were a deep puncture wound that could not get air to it. Why deal with a sore swollen arm for a week when a dab of HP will be just as effective? I have researched the vaccines a bit and I honestly don't see an advantage to getting them. If I am wrong, maybe someone has some evidence to support otherwise. :|

 

[joem]

Yeah Vaccines are a choice, but I puncture my hands regularly scrapping out computers, so it's a no brainer for me. It's just one of those thing to know about and protect yourself about no matter how you do it.

 

[patnor1011]

Do you really protect yourself by injecting yourself with cocktail of secret proprietary chemicals? While some vaccination may be good in some instances people tend to overdose with various drugs and then wonder why another drugs do not work properly. I too like to keep things simple. It is funny that cheap things (like H2O2, vitamin B,D,C) are not promoted, sometimes even warned against - well they do not bring profit compared to multi-wonder complicated super drugs. :lol:
More people died from vaccination related complications than from latest porky flu scare story.

 

[MysticColby]

It is my understanding that Hydrogen Peroxide will kill Tetanus. The Oxygen kills it. The only time there would be a danger is if it were a deep puncture wound that could not get air to it. Why deal with a sore swollen arm for a week when a dab of HP will be just as effective? I have researched the vaccines a bit and I honestly don't see an advantage to getting them. If I am wrong, maybe someone has some evidence to support otherwise. :|

H2O2 is great for killing all bacteria, but it's the small scratches you think nothing about or don't notice that can cause you problems. Also, your blood has it's own mechanisms for removing oxygen radicals (that's what H2O2 is - it's not oxygen that's deadly to microbs, it's the radicals), so it's neutralized rather quickly if you don't use enough (that's what the bubbles are - H2O2 being neutralized by your blood). air is not involved in H2O2's effectiveness, but if the wound is deep, it would indeed need to be opened for H2O2 to be applied.
nothing wrong with not wanting a vaccine, you seem to know that you do need to properly clean a wound after exposure, so I could see you doing just fine without one. A tetanus vaccine is best for people who don't practice good wound care and/or cut themselves often (even with good care, it's possible some bacteria will be missed, so a vaccine is just another layer of protection).

cocktail of secret proprietary chemicals

vaccines are not chemicals. I'll grant you they usually have a chemical preservative, but the vaccine itself is composed of surface proteins or fragments of cells from the bacteria (or virus). It works because it provides target practice for your immune system. Gives them something harmless so they know what's deadly so it'll be able to save your life when you're exposed to it.

people tend to overdose with various drugs and then wonder why another drugs do not work properly.

agreed, though not relevant to vaccines.

vitamin B,D,C

vitamins cure disease? Sure, daily supplements make your immune system stronger to resist infection. But if you already have an infection, vitamins are not going to solve anything. And if your immune system doesn't know what to do with a particular infection, it can't stop it no matter how strong it is.

More people died from vaccination related complications than from latest porky flu scare story.

I question the reality of your source while agreeing people make too much of news stories and are easily frightened by things they can't see and have heard mentioned before.

 

[Claudie]

It is my understanding that Hydrogen Peroxide will kill Tetanus. The Oxygen kills it. The only time there would be a danger is if it were a deep puncture wound that could not get air to it. Why deal with a sore swollen arm for a week when a dab of HP will be just as effective? I have researched the vaccines a bit and I honestly don't see an advantage to getting them. If I am wrong, maybe someone has some evidence to support otherwise. :|

H2O2 is great for killing all bacteria, but it's the small scratches you think nothing about or don't notice that can cause you problems. Also, your blood has it's own mechanisms for removing oxygen radicals (that's what H2O2 is - it's not oxygen that's deadly to microbs, it's the radicals), so it's neutralized rather quickly if you don't use enough (that's what the bubbles are - H2O2 being neutralized by your blood). air is not involved in H2O2's effectiveness, but if the wound is deep, it would indeed need to be opened for H2O2 to be applied.
nothing wrong with not wanting a vaccine, you seem to know that you do need to properly clean a wound after exposure, so I could see you doing just fine without one. A tetanus vaccine is best for people who don't practice good wound care and/or cut themselves often (even with good care, it's possible some bacteria will be missed, so a vaccine is just another layer of protection).

cocktail of secret proprietary chemicals

vaccines are not chemicals. I'll grant you they usually have a chemical preservative, but the vaccine itself is composed of surface proteins or fragments of cells from the bacteria (or virus). It works because it provides target practice for your immune system. Gives them something harmless so they know what's deadly so it'll be able to save your life when you're exposed to it.

people tend to overdose with various drugs and then wonder why another drugs do not work properly.

agreed, though not relevant to vaccines.

vitamin B,D,C

vitamins cure disease? Sure, daily supplements make your immune system stronger to resist infection. But if you already have an infection, vitamins are not going to solve anything. And if your immune system doesn't know what to do with a particular infection, it can't stop it no matter how strong it is.

More people died from vaccination related complications than from latest porky flu scare story.

I question the reality of your source while agreeing people make too much of news stories and are easily frightened by things they can't see and have heard mentioned before.

If you do some research on the topic, you will find that the disease declines that are credited with vaccines were actually on a decline BEFORE the vaccines came out. It is dis-information that the vaccines caused the decline. Vitamins may not cure disease but they can prevent it, probably more effectively than the vaccines. As for the cocktail of chemicals, though the vaccine itself may not be a chemical, you will get the chemicals with the vaccine. The true statistics are out there if you will look, but keep in mind the CDC and such places are not always the place to look when you seek the truth. Before you believe everything you are told by the media, have an open mind and do the research for yourself.

 

[MysticColby]

If you do some research on the topic, you will find that the disease declines that are credited with vaccines were actually on a decline BEFORE the vaccines came out. It is dis-information that the vaccines caused the decline. Vitamins may not cure disease but they can prevent it, probably more effectively than the vaccines. As for the cocktail of chemicals, though the vaccine itself may not be a chemical, you will get the chemicals with the vaccine. The true statistics are out there if you will look, but keep in mind the CDC and such places are not always the place to look when you seek the truth. Before you believe everything you are told by the media, have an open mind and do the research for yourself.

Honestly, I think it's impossible to find unbiased research on this subject. It's one of those heated debate topics where everyone is throwing extreme examples out there claiming they are the norm. I found several pages in the last 5 minutes that even go so far as to say they are unbiased but continue on to have nothing good or nothing bad to say on the subject. An unbiased site is going to present you with the whole picture, including both pros and cons, in phrasing that doesn't lean one way or the other.
One thing I do know for sure: The only people who are wrong are those who want to force others to take medicine. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion, and should get to decide for themselves if they want said vaccines. I know their reasons (eradication), but that's not the way to go about accomplishing it.

I do agree that they have made some poor choices in preservatives (thimerosal, for example).

 

[MysticColby]

reflecting, I feel we've gone off topic a bit here

To to OP: yes, tetanus is an issue that can and should be delt with in several ways.
Stay safe!

 

[Claudie]

reflecting, I feel we've gone off topic a bit here

To to OP: yes, tetanus is an issue that can and should be delt with in several ways.
Stay safe!

Agreed! :lol:

 

[joem]

Yes this topic is under the catagory of safety, let's just say it's one way to keep forum member alive and kicking

 

[AztekShine]

I stabed my thumb with an 1/2" auger bit last week. I kno it's too late now. But I think my last shot was 6 yrs ago. How often do I need one?

 

[Geo]

I stabed my thumb with an 1/2" auger bit last week. I kno it's too late now. But I think my last shot was 6 yrs ago. How often do I need one?

recommended every ten years to be effective.

 

[pugle1]

If you do some research on the topic, you will find that the disease declines that are credited with vaccines were actually on a decline BEFORE the vaccines came out. It is dis-information that the vaccines caused the decline. Vitamins may not cure disease but they can prevent it, probably more effectively than the vaccines. As for the cocktail of chemicals, though the vaccine itself may not be a chemical, you will get the chemicals with the vaccine. The true statistics are out there if you will look, but keep in mind the CDC and such places are not always the place to look when you seek the truth. Before you believe everything you are told by the media, have an open mind and do the research for yourself.

Really? So polio was actually on the decline when Jonas Salk came out with the polio vaccine? Seems polio has been eradicated but I guess if left alone it would have become extinct all by it self. I'm old enough to remember the "iron lung" used to keep all those polio victims alive, mind you I was just a kid back then in the early to mid sixties.

Not a knock Claudie as people will believe what they want to, but I get my flu shot every year, and had my tetanus booster 2 years ago. I'll err on the side of caution and get my vaccines. I haven't died from them yet

Edit: Forgot to mention measles, rheubella, small pox, typhoid et al.

 

[pugle1]

I stabed my thumb with an 1/2" auger bit last week. I kno it's too late now. But I think my last shot was 6 yrs ago. How often do I need one?

Should be good for 10 years ... according to my doctor.

 

[pugle1]

If you do some research on the topic, you will find that the disease declines that are credited with vaccines were actually on a decline BEFORE the vaccines came out. It is dis-information that the vaccines caused the decline. Vitamins may not cure disease but they can prevent it, probably more effectively than the vaccines. As for the cocktail of chemicals, though the vaccine itself may not be a chemical, you will get the chemicals with the vaccine. The true statistics are out there if you will look, but keep in mind the CDC and such places are not always the place to look when you seek the truth. Before you believe everything you are told by the media, have an open mind and do the research for yourself.

Honestly, I think it's impossible to find unbiased research on this subject. It's one of those heated debate topics where everyone is throwing extreme examples out there claiming they are the norm. I found several pages in the last 5 minutes that even go so far as to say they are unbiased but continue on to have nothing good or nothing bad to say on the subject. An unbiased site is going to present you with the whole picture, including both pros and cons, in phrasing that doesn't lean one way or the other.
One thing I do know for sure: The only people who are wrong are those who want to force others to take medicine. Everyone else is entitled to their opinion, and should get to decide for themselves if they want said vaccines. I know their reasons (eradication), but that's not the way to go about accomplishing it.

I do agree that they have made some poor choices in preservatives (thimerosal, for example).

I agree wholeheartedly. Leave it to individuals to make there own choices. Besides... there is something called heard immunity. It's a theory that states that if enough people get the vaccine for a particular virus, that the virus has no real chance of spreading, thus protecting the "heard", meaning that not everyone needs the vaccine if enough people are innoculated. That's how polio was eradicated (save for a few frozen samples in some CDC lab somewhere). Another preservative I believe is mercury acetate used in flu vaccines ( correct me if I'm wrong on that ), but I still get my flu shot annually.

 

[steyr223]

i know this is an old thread but saftey seems
a little more appealing to me now than before

my whole life as a plumber getting cuts infected
with copper ,add a bit of flux .
i almost never give anything short of "your dripping
bood everywhere ,the customer is getting sick"
or "you got to go the health inspecter's coming"
after a can of abs glue doesnt stop the bleeding,
a second look

i dont wash my wound,nor do i apply any medicen
or ingest any
i have always just let infection run its course
to heal in the end

i do not know when my last tetnus was probably in
1985 when in the army

now i went through about a 4 year period when
i started scrapping i would get staff, but not from o.e
dirty cut
it appeared as tho my body could only handle 39
cuts or abrasions at one time and on the 40th
everything all my wounds,even the old ones would
begin to staff
this is where i would start caring a little more

getting old sucks

thats old news i apperantly stopped getting so many
it hasnt happend for 3 or 4 years

now u guys are family right

last year i was getting bumps on my arms "only
between my wrist and elbow
fot all purposes it had everything you get when the
so called"spider bite" had .
swelling sometimes the size of a golf ball,the puss
filled head the crater upon healing.

i could get a cut and go through the whole healing
process 3 days while this was happening with no
effect.

when finally i did the docter thing he.said it is not
staff it is mrsa (colonized bacteria) no antibiotics

he perscribed me chloro hexidine(not sure) but it
was SOAP ....it got worse
i finally killed it with heavy doses of bleach
so i thought

ts back but this time i started bleach rigjt away
its going away

what i dont understand is with my arms freshly bleached
at night. how the heck can i wake with more bumbs
it tells me its inside not outside?

any comments would be appreciated
i decided to post this hoping in the future maybe
this could help someone else especially if chemicals
or metals are involved

thanks steyr223 rob

 

[solar_plasma]

Find another doc, maybe a specialist. You can easily lose your arm or you can die by mrsa! No joke! And yes, it is inside, - that's the problem with mrsa. Do everything you can in order to enhance your autoimmune system, stop smoking, drinking, no immune supressing drugs or medicines, healthy food, no chemical poisons,fresh air,enough sleep, no hard sport and no psychic stress. Additionally you can use self-suggestion methods.

 

[steyr223]

thanks.solar
i domt think i am gunna loose an arm yet
i am not that stubborn

let see my everyday life style for as long as i
can remeber hum...i dont drink he he

i may change my habbits somedqy but as of
now i still smoke eat pizza and drink coke
if i did all of your above suggestions i would probably
cease to exist

but

i do believe 100% in alternative medicine
we live in a balanced world our universal laws
say for every sickness there is a cure

do you have any suggestions
i will purchase some immune boostets

it is funny i never related stress to this

i just fell in love like a new born but had to
tell her she could not be in my life

probaly more stress than i ever felt

thanks steyr223 rob

 

[butcher]

I am no doctor, from what I understand there are some strains of these bacteria that have become immune to the antibiotics, some are very hard to cure, because they are hard to kill off, I too normally heal just fine with no medicine, and have a good immune system, dirt in wounds has never been a problem for me, but this bacteria is not like the common bacterias you have dealt with before, age can somewhat effect your immune system, and stress in life is a always a killer, eating healthy and taking care of yourself is just good common sense, but with some of these new strains of bacteria you may need help from the medical professionals, some of these new strains can be very deadly, and it probably will not go away with washing the outside of the sores with bleach when these bugs can have infected your blood.

I too suggest finding a good doctor some of these can be very serious.

PS, I do not go to doctors either unless my legs are broke and someone has to carry me there, so I can understand not going, but then again sometimes if you do not go when you should you may just end up with someone carrying you to a six foot hole in the ground, so maybe going to have this checked out better is not such a bad idea after all.

 

[solar_plasma]

@steyr
One more thing to be aware off: All your body fluids contain mrsa, when once infected. So be carefull, not to infect those around you as long as you are running around with it.