Hartbar said:
I get it Dave, teach a man to fish, and no, your not being a jerk.
I just don’t understand your position entirely?
I’ve heard on Forum, “tell us your plan and we will critique and advise”
I did that, cemented out. I’m now looking for advice and critique.
I’m told read the book.
I am half way through Hokes book, it’s 355 pages, I’m taking notes and will have to read twice I’m sure.
Hartbar, you're new to this. It's interesting and exciting. You started out without enough knowledge and made a bit of a mess. We advised you how to recover from the mess, and to put your chemicals away until you did more studying to proceed to the next step.
You say you want us to critique your plan, but you don't have a plan. Instead, you're asking us to give you the plan and tell you what to do next.
Yes, Hoke's book is long because there is much to learn. None of us have the time to rewrite it here on the forum. If I tell you to use AR next, will you know how to handle the next problem you have? If I say nitric should be next, will you know what to do after that?
If you wanted to learn to fly a plane, would you read half the book and then jump into the pilot's seat because the book was long and you really wanted to fly today?
If users ask which way to go at a point in the process, would you have them take a shot in the dark and make a serious mistake?
No, we'd rather they follow the advice they've been given and study until they understand how to proceed.
Maybe this is amusing to some on here?
No, it's not amusing at all. No one on the forum gets paid to help others. This is a 100% volunteer site. We all have lives and responsibilities outside the forum. So when we give someone advice, we expect them to follow it. When we tell someone to read Hoke's book, we expect them to do it, not just half of it.
If anyone else wants to give you step by step instructions, they're free to do it. But anyone who's been here long enough to give you sound advice has probably been down that road before. I have. And when I've tried to take someone under my wing and tutor them, it has come back to bite me. When I was new here, I used to feel that the old timers were too hard on new members. Why not just answer the newb's questions? After close to ten years and thousands of posts trying to help others, I've come to understand there was wisdom to their position.
At this point, you still think you've probably cemented both gold and silver out of your solution. That tells me you're not yet ready to take the next step and start adding acids to things again. I encourage you to read:
Why Can't I Ask a Simple Question and get a Simple Answer?. It may help you to understand my position. I don't want you to be the next casualty because I gave you a quick answer to your simple question before you were prepared to understand it.
Dave