kurtak
Well-known member
Ok - for the last couple days I was trying to decide if I should post this in the safety section or here --- I decided here because I don't think the safety section gets read all that much - especially by new members & "lurkers" who are here "only" to learn "how to get the gold" --- & this post shows what I am taking about
This last Friday I stopped in at the local coin dealer that I sell my gold to who I also process stuff for which is why I deal with him - he pays me a good price for my metal & he always has stuff for me to process - I process all his gold filled & low grade silver (so its a two way business relationship)
Anyway - when I stopped in on Friday he says - "hey I was just going to call you - had a guy come in yesterday & he has 14.5 lbs. of gold plated stainless steel that is supposed to yield around 3g/lb - if your interested we can call & see if he can bring it over --- I said call
So the guy brings it over & my first question is - how do you know it yields 3g/lb & how do you know its on SS & he says because I have the spec sheet on it which says 316 SS & I originally had 48 lbs & was processing it my self & this is the last of it & I was getting between 2.5 & 3.5g/lb & I am sure I lost gold (on the low yields)
So I asked - if you have been processing it why don't you just finish it & how were you processing it?
And he tells me - I was using HCl to dissolve away the SS (no H2O2) then AR on the foils & SMB to drop the gold
It was taking huge amounts of HCl to get rid of the SS & in the process I have "ruined everything" in my garage & even stuff in the house & it sent me to the hospital twice - once because of breathing problems from the fumes & once because I got acid in my eyes from the mist when looking in on a reaction - at first things started to get a little hazy & then went to a total blur & I had to crawl over to my neighbors (wife was gone) to get a ride to the hospital to have my eyes flushed out with 30 gallons of water over 3 hours
Here is the part that bothers me - I asked him where he learned to do what he was doing & he said - "on the internet & the different gold refining forums"
So I asked him if he was a member of GRF & he said - "no - I have only been to that forum (as a visitor) to get information about doing it - clearly he never read a single thing about safety
I can't help but wonder that with close 34,000 members - but only a (small) hand full that are active - & who knows how many that just visit to do nothing but pick "just enough" info to give it a try --- how many more stories like this one are actually out there?
I know of one more here in my local area - its not quite as bad as this one only because he did not end up going to the hospital - but other then that he had a total disregard for safety (until he met me & I started teaching him the importance of it)
I know we have talked about it before - but is there a way to set it up where people first have to read some information about dangers & safety & then answer a few questions before they can visit the forum let alone join it
It bothers me that we are providing information that allows people to hurt them selves & other because they can come here & learn "how to get the gold" but skip right over the dangers & safety part
I can't help but feel a responsibility "to make" people aware of the dangers & safety - before they are allowed access to info that can/will hurt them & others
To many people just wont look at the danger/safety part unless they are made to - because its gold they are after !
Here is a pic of the gold plated SS I got & a 1lbs sample run did yield right at 3.5g
Kurt
This last Friday I stopped in at the local coin dealer that I sell my gold to who I also process stuff for which is why I deal with him - he pays me a good price for my metal & he always has stuff for me to process - I process all his gold filled & low grade silver (so its a two way business relationship)
Anyway - when I stopped in on Friday he says - "hey I was just going to call you - had a guy come in yesterday & he has 14.5 lbs. of gold plated stainless steel that is supposed to yield around 3g/lb - if your interested we can call & see if he can bring it over --- I said call
So the guy brings it over & my first question is - how do you know it yields 3g/lb & how do you know its on SS & he says because I have the spec sheet on it which says 316 SS & I originally had 48 lbs & was processing it my self & this is the last of it & I was getting between 2.5 & 3.5g/lb & I am sure I lost gold (on the low yields)
So I asked - if you have been processing it why don't you just finish it & how were you processing it?
And he tells me - I was using HCl to dissolve away the SS (no H2O2) then AR on the foils & SMB to drop the gold
It was taking huge amounts of HCl to get rid of the SS & in the process I have "ruined everything" in my garage & even stuff in the house & it sent me to the hospital twice - once because of breathing problems from the fumes & once because I got acid in my eyes from the mist when looking in on a reaction - at first things started to get a little hazy & then went to a total blur & I had to crawl over to my neighbors (wife was gone) to get a ride to the hospital to have my eyes flushed out with 30 gallons of water over 3 hours
Here is the part that bothers me - I asked him where he learned to do what he was doing & he said - "on the internet & the different gold refining forums"
So I asked him if he was a member of GRF & he said - "no - I have only been to that forum (as a visitor) to get information about doing it - clearly he never read a single thing about safety
I can't help but wonder that with close 34,000 members - but only a (small) hand full that are active - & who knows how many that just visit to do nothing but pick "just enough" info to give it a try --- how many more stories like this one are actually out there?
I know of one more here in my local area - its not quite as bad as this one only because he did not end up going to the hospital - but other then that he had a total disregard for safety (until he met me & I started teaching him the importance of it)
I know we have talked about it before - but is there a way to set it up where people first have to read some information about dangers & safety & then answer a few questions before they can visit the forum let alone join it
It bothers me that we are providing information that allows people to hurt them selves & other because they can come here & learn "how to get the gold" but skip right over the dangers & safety part
I can't help but feel a responsibility "to make" people aware of the dangers & safety - before they are allowed access to info that can/will hurt them & others
To many people just wont look at the danger/safety part unless they are made to - because its gold they are after !
Here is a pic of the gold plated SS I got & a 1lbs sample run did yield right at 3.5g
Kurt