justinhcase said:
We do not give exact instructions on the production of energetic compounds as such instructions are Widley available anyway, and we try and avoid the proliferation of such information to prevent tarnishing an activity which could very easily be misused by unsavoury people.
Not sure what this has to do with what we are discussing here (which is filters/anode bags for silver cell)
If you are saying that we should not talk about how gun cotton is made (&/or other explosive compounds) - then I must disagree & I disagree because of the fact that explosive compound can inadvertently be created in a number of different ways in the process of refining
Therefore (IMO) such things actually need to be openly discussed so that (especially hobby) refiners do not inadvertently end up making such compounds that could blow up in there face - because they are un-aware they are even making such compounds
That is why - in the past - on a number of different occasions I have posted (in fair detail) about the "possibility" of creating things like metal fulminates, metal acetylides both of which are highly explosive AND which CAN inadvertently be made in refining
Gun cotton is another such compound (though not "highly" explosive) that can most certainly be created in refining & therefore (IMO) it is "important" that (especially hobby) refiners be made aware of not only "that" it can be created - but how it is made so that they are aware of how/when it is being created in there refining process(s) --- they can then deal with it accordingly :!:
Gun cotton is NOT highly explosive - & under normal conditions is not likely to self ignite --- could it self ignite - sure - just like a pile of oily rages in a trash can "could" self ignite - IF - the conditions for spontaneous combustion are - "just right"
In order for organics to spontaneously combust - it "requires" three things ------
1) fuel (the organic matter - hay, straw, cotton, oil etc. etc.)
2) heat (that rises above its ignition point)
3) oxygen (& from wikipedia - "by oxidation
in the presence of moisture and air, - or bacterial fermentation) --- note the underlined --- that tells me - though not absolute - there is as much chance of "wet" (stored) filters self igniting as dried filters --- nitrates throw a "bit of a curve ball in there as yes they "can" self ignite both dry or wet - IF - conditions are "just right"
Of those three conditions - you can fully control two of them (the fuel is just there in the fact of storing the organics - straw, hay, rags, cotton etc. etc.)
the potential of heat can be controlled by storing in a
cool dry place - & oxidation can be controlled by storing in a container that "lacks" oxygen (not that same as air "tight") but "lacks" oxygen - like a trash can "
with the lid on it"
Bottom line - there is little - if any danger of your (muslin) anode bags/filters (gun cotton) spontaneously igniting --- as long as you keep them stored in a "cool" dry place in the first place - & store them in a container that "lacks" oxygen in the second place
-Also, it was a little "tongue in cheek" pandemic humour, but we will have to work on that with you.
Per the underlined --- I "hope" you are not trying to "bate" me into some kind of confrontation Justin :!: :?:
We have had such confrontations in the past - & as I recall that did not end well for you - so lets not go there again
I have gotten "way past" our past confrontations & I would hope you have as well
It is not my intent to get into another confrontation because of things in the past
Rather - it is my intent to post information that "may" be helpful to questions asked - that includes questions asked by you - if the info I post is not helpful to you in your particular situation - then that is not (& should not) be a problem - in which case we will work on figuring out what may better work for you
As we know - in this business there is more then one way to do things - so though I may reply to something you ask - does not mean I am targeting just you - rather it is meant as/for general information that "may help you - & if not "may" help others that are following along in the discussion
Kurt