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  1. Shark

    Electrolytic copper refining cell

    I think you just need to get it started, as with burning it. Like AP does, once it has copper in HCl, it becomes AP and attacks copper quicker. Not sure it will work with copper and sulfuric but it is worth a try. And it uses fewer chemicals.
  2. D

    Gold fill over Brass

    Yes, and you were right. Works perfect. Thanks.
  3. Yggdrasil

    Please I need your advise/help!

    ...hard to say what you can get out of this. Anyway you will have some work depopulating and prepping material for refining. For Cupric Chloride aka AP you need two things Copper and HCl well and some way to get air into your solution. Most use a aquarium air pump. Best if the Copper is...
  4. 4metals

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Keeping in the order of processing we hope to maintain in this thread, the last step before the actual AP is removing any solder mask from the boards. Let’s hear how you do it before moving on to the AP process.
  5. S

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    I read that, and I understand, when using AP on magnetic pins, you have magnetic base metals in your AP solution. And probably shouldn't use the solution on non- magnetic pins.
  6. A

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Per 4metals, I am adding this to the list of scrap types that lend themselves to the AP process. I have successfully used AP on these small gold plated, copper items from microwave oscillators. It took about 2 weeks to fully dissolve the base metal. Photo included: Before - During – After
  7. S

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Ten 4 Edit by Moderator, removed extra quotes.
  8. Jesse Vos

    Tin solder removal from ddr 2/3 ram ic chips.

    Hello everyone, I was wondering if I can give my ic ram chips a soak in AP solution to dissolve all the tin solder from the business side of the ic chips. My plan(if it works) is to dissolve all the tin solder off the back with the ap soloution and rinse off the chips with distilled water and...
  9. M

    Help with potential profits of RAM scrap

    I get it from a store here that is selling laboratory equipment and chemicals of all sorts. It is exactly 3% peroxide. Was it easy to get the gold out of AP solution?
  10. H

    Please I need your advise/help!

    Good to have! I would keep it for AR and use the normal 10% stuff for AP. But I guess if you have the licence you can get more when you need it.
  11. Shark

    AP Waste Solution will not clear - dirty transmission oil

    The is no sulfuric in AP. It is made using Hydrochloric acid and maybe, peroxide. Better yet use HCl and an aquarium pump to supply the extra oxygen in place of the peroxide.
  12. Yggdrasil

    Aqua regia process post sulfuric stripping

    I will elaborate a bit in Bold inside the quote.
  13. G

    E-Waste using no chemicals - Can it be done?

    ...are an exothermal reactions, similar to Thermite. Like calling a tissue a Kleenex, even though it is not the same formula as Kleenex, therefore, it is not a Kleenex. Thermite is a known specific chemical combination. Just like calling AP as AR, because they both dissolve Au, doesn't make AP AR.
  14. Shark

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    My issue with pins in AP has been volume. Putting a couple hundred grams in it wasn’t much problem at all. Putting 2-3 pounds in it was always a pain. They tend to bond together in a lump and cement the copper out of the solution, even when I used two to three gallons of AP on them. Like...
  15. Martijn

    Aqua regia process post sulfuric stripping

    A piece that really helped explain the AP process to me was this one:
  16. Yggdrasil

    Please I need your advise/help!

    ...the correct questions. Step by step is only correct within a very limited setting so if one of the parameters change so do the step by step. For AP we can say this general setting: Add HCl to cover your material, add a bit of corroded Copper, a cap of Peroxide 3% and start the air bubbler...
  17. 4metals

    My Plan - New to Refining. I would love a review please.

    I have started a thread to generate an organized approach to the AP process here Let's try to make this an organized step by step guide.
  18. O'Neil

    Great to be here on the forum with you all!

    PGM'S are my thing rather than au, but still love em all of course!! Have done chemical refining (ap method) as well as furnace. Not really a beginner nor expert, still lots to learn.
  19. anachronism

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Mostly true- ultimately you can make Ferric leach if the Iron content gets too high. This is one of the issues with using Iron to cement out the Copper if you are going to re-use the solution.
  20. Yggdrasil

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    I think the issue is that Ferric Chloride do not rejuvenate by the Oxygen (air bubbling) as Cupric Chloride do.
  21. Yggdrasil

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Remove the Tin first with HCl, then go to AP or Nitric.
  22. Nevadayote

    My experimental calcs on buying Escrap from online sellers

    ...have are estimates. I'm about to complete processing 677 grams of depopulated ram sticks. I just knocked off the chips and put the boards into an AP solution to remove the gold. Then, I put all of the solids into an acid and bleach mix to dissolve the gold and whatever other metals came...
  23. Emryst

    Ok general question on which process to use for different type of gold...

    I'll have to read up on that any sources you can share on where to start?
  24. Yggdrasil

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    Something is off here, no Nitric in AP and usually no unidentified scrap solutions either.
  25. S

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    I agree. I started processing ram card, sound, and graphic card gold fingers using AP and a fish aquarium bubbler. When I filtered the gold foils, I would roast them until red.
  26. Shark

    Step by step instructions for AP processing circuit boards

    https://goldrefiningforum.com/members/frugalrefiner.23255/ A glossary of common refining terms. But, AP is a misnomer for acid/peroxide. Better yet it uses hydrochloric acid and a fish aquarium pump to supply oxygen to the HCl. This in turn dissolves copper and some base metals. Please study...
  27. Yggdrasil

    Looking for learning,

    That is completely probable. Maybe AP/Cupric Chloride might be better.
  28. B

    Gold recovery

    AP can be reused It’s easy to make Like Yaggdrasil it’s dissolves Tin And base metals I like the sit and forget part it allows me to do other projects while the AP is working .
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