I need to bid for some 795 000 pcs sim card new and original and never used sim cards next week..do you have any idea about its yield I mean for 795 000 pcs I csan share pictures of the cards ...And according to that I want to biğd...its gross weight is some 4300 kg from Bulgarian operator...How much per kg I can gain per kg?or better How much I can gain for some let is say for some 10 000 cards or 6000 pcs cards?Plus if any refiners can process it with resonable fee?
795 000 sim cards yield--pls help to calculate
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I think there are some refining examples in the forum, but can not remember yields.
I think the individual concluded it was not worth the effort.
But I might be wrong in that.
Anyway trimming and smelting will be the only viable route in my opinion.
When buying lots this big, you need to know precisely. And not to rely on some internet forum and folks you never seen. It is serious money, and you should be able to precisely tell how much you will get from it, and what is your profit from the entire lot after factoring the costs and all fees, transportation, refining, negotiations etc... This, you need to have calculated beforehand, you need to know BEFOREHAND, where you will let them refine it, and how expensive it will be. And most importantly, it isn´t done blank and blindfolded. You need to acquire SAMPLES and get them analyzed PROPERLY to determine the real value. Best would be to acquire process sample of few kilograms, which will be processed by that facility and exactly the same method as in large scale - as losses are everywhere. Assay tell you what 100% is, but process sample tell you how much of that 100% you can squeeze with used method.
Do your research. Going head first into something like this usually ends up in financial disaster. Anyway, you can be lucky, but statistics are statistics.
Do your research. Going head first into something like this usually ends up in financial disaster. Anyway, you can be lucky, but statistics are statistics.
Do they have a picture of the individual cards... I ask because I'll seen sim cards with gold plating that's so lite that it doesn't even look gold plated. As far as gold bonding wires, they usually (but not always) do have a couple bonding wires.
Nevermind...I just seen the picture and those are the ones I'm talking about.
Martijn
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Ask for a better picture.
I can see no gold plating.
It might not be worth processing.
I can see no gold plating.
It might not be worth processing.
What this illustrates to me is just how much waste is produced in the pursuit of 'green' technology. I remember the screeching about paper bags in the 1980's. Plastic bags were FORCED upon us to 'save the trees!'... and as I predicted back then, now the same people are screaming about the mountains of plastic bags everywhere.
Paper, glass, and solid metal are the most easily recyclable materials. Plastic is basically trash. The only thing you can do with it is try to turn it back into oil or flammable gasses to a degree for fuel.
Paper, glass, and solid metal are the most easily recyclable materials. Plastic is basically trash. The only thing you can do with it is try to turn it back into oil or flammable gasses to a degree for fuel.
Martijn
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The orange card in the first picture.
If someone were to offer this lot to me, free of charge, I would still give it serious thought.
Orvi gives good advice on this one. Without a kilo or two to process before making an offer, it might be best to leave it be.
Time for more coffee.
Orvi gives good advice on this one. Without a kilo or two to process before making an offer, it might be best to leave it be.
Time for more coffee.
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Not worth anything. Will cost more to process than the value of the yield. This wouldn’t be a good deal even if it was shipped to you for free.
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We have two members in a Facebook group I am in, that have reported yield data. The start weights are the Smart Chips only, not the attached platic holder.
Owltech Owltech-.15g from 97g
999Dusan-.3g from 120g
We also have multiple posts with breakdowns of Smart Chips of various sizes and weights after removing from the holders.
I will send you the link in private conversations.
Hope this helps and wish you well.
Janie
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A rough guide from processing much much smaller amounts a couple times, approximately half a gram per 1000 sims, but that's mixed sim types & has already been said, there are different quality.
If they were tiny cell phone sim cards, I would say it would be difficult.... but doable. Being on card stock that's going to make it an utter nightmare to deal with as a hobbyist.
Yes, you would need some kind of punching machine to punch out each one.
It would take a lot of man hours to do so.
Edit to add:
If you punch one a second it will take 10 ish days before you even have a recoverable product.
No way anyone will be doing it like this
It would simply go to the furnance for proper burn and incineration. And ashes would be smelted to obtain something metallic to work with. I will be very curious on the composition of the metallic residue - from my experience with plated material it should have measurable gold concentration. Metallic residue from typical close cut fingers is around 10-35% metal, depending on thickness of the boards. And it can easily shoot many % of gold in composition. If you will be able to produce even 0,5% Au bars, it would be then very easy to process.Also, if there is a filler in the plastic, you are essentially screwed, as from 4 tons or whatever ammount, that will be so huge pile of ashes, it will never justify smelting.
In my wildest dream, what I do... I would try to pair with some facility that incinerates waste, and strike a deal that they will burn it in their furnance (as all their waste) - making pretty nice profit from energy, as 4 tons of plastic is energetic as hell
And in return they will get you all of the ashes produced. Even if they will request some pay for this odd and strange service, you would be better off than constructing the incinerator.Then, you will crush the ashes to powder, sluice them or froth them in flotation tank to retrieve the metallics (recovery won´t be ideal, but still better than smelting the whole lot of ashes), and from there it should be relatively easy.
