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JLucky

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Hey I'm from south Louisiana and I was injured in a car accident and sustained some damages to a few disk. Which as put in a condition that leaves me unable to work while I'm under going treatment to fix the problem. Anyway that's a horse of another color,having said all that I'm unable to work and have always been a seeker of knowledge of truths and experiences. I've always been fascinated with alchemy and since I've gotten the time to dedicate myself 100% to it, I figured now's the time to start. So I started researching online and reading different books and so on, then one day I stumbled upon a video on YouTube for how to get gold. And I'm sitting there broke as a mother, I'm talkin no pot and plywood on the window, so I'm all ears. The video shows a guy taking apart a computer to get the gold out of it, and I'm sitting there with 2 old 1999 computers and a broke 2003 hp laptop and one monitor and about 7 broke tvs from the vhs days. So I'm thinking jackpot, to make a long story short I've been on a frantic collection spree of e-scrap and now posses a enough to have electronic nic nacs everywhere throughout my house and the ole lady says it time to get it gone. And I'm ready to see what I've got :lol: . I'm looking to depopulate my boards separate the different components, and take the monolithic compositors and sell as is bc I hear they sell for around 100.00 per pound I'd like feedback on whether that's a good idea. But besides the compositors I'm going to extract all the precious metals from my e-scrap collection. And my research as landed me here with you. So I'm a pupil in need of a teacher.
 
Sorry for the terminology I'm looking to extract and refine precious metals from e-scrap
 
Be prepared for a long road to accomplish this task. This knowledge is here and free for everyone however recovery and refining is a whole science itself and cant be learned in days or weeks. To be really efficient one has to study and practice several months/years.

For start you can work on separating your material and reading C.M.Hoke book "Refining precious metals wastes" which is here for download from many members signature links.

You should also spend some time reading Library section of this forum.
 
Thanks for the post I'm downloading the book now looking forward to learning with y'all
 
If you are looking for a fast buck then sell your scrap on eBay or to a company like http://boardsort.com

For a general idea about what values you got, look at the payout rates at http://boardsort.com/payout.php
Many of our members does sell their materials there, no need for nasty chemicals or building a dedicated place where you can work safe from the acidic fumes.

Whatever you do, don't buy scrap on eBay as it's virtually impossible to buy anything there and process without loosing money. Too many uninformed persons there, driving up the price.

A couple of computers and a few old tv-sets isn't a jackpot. You need volumes of scrap to even earn some pocket money. Study the forum and you will see that I'm right. If you want material to train on, take the high grade components and put in a small box, then scrap and sell / trash the tv:s and computer leftovers to keep your ole lady happy.
When you have collected enough material in the box then you could go on with recovery and refining your gold.

Welcome to the forum, this is the best place to learn about recovery and refining if you really want to learn the trade, but it will take time.

Göran
 
g_axelsson said:
Whatever you do, don't buy scrap on eBay as it's virtually impossible to buy anything there and process without loosing money. Too many uninformed persons there, driving up the price.

Göran

If you don't mind Goran I will caveat the above comment. Don't buy scrap on eBay UNTIL you know what you're doing and you're able to differentiate between overpriced rubbish (as Goran rightly pointed out) and a bargain because someone doesn't know what something really is. 8)
 
spaceships said:
g_axelsson said:
Whatever you do, don't buy scrap on eBay as it's virtually impossible to buy anything there and process without loosing money. Too many uninformed persons there, driving up the price.

Göran

If you don't mind Goran I will caveat the above comment. Don't buy scrap on eBay UNTIL you know what you're doing and you're able to differentiate between overpriced rubbish (as Goran rightly pointed out) and a bargain because someone doesn't know what something really is. 8)

YUP! Typically those are not found with search words like scrap + gold.
 
Hi. I saw your post and have to come to at least a small defense of your choice of terminology for your title. Gold refining and assay have been compared to alchemy innumerable times over the years, and I'm not absolutely certain that genuine alchemy wasn't instrumental in discovery of fire and wet chemical processes. In my years doing fire assay I was always aware of a certain mystique regarding the process, and a definite feeling that it is perhaps more art than science.

I have to admit, however, that I never quite found the Philosopher's Stone, and every time I recovered the mercury from processing amalgam it always seemed to still be only mercury. I never found any evidence of one bit of it turning to gold. Regardless, playing with the recovery of gold, even with our modern points of view, has a mystery and romanticism equal to any of the alchemist's tales of old.
 
Lmarc1 said:
Hi. I saw your post and have to come to at least a small defense of your choice of terminology for your title. Gold refining and assay have been compared to alchemy innumerable times over the years, and I'm not absolutely certain that genuine alchemy wasn't instrumental in discovery of fire and wet chemical processes. In my years doing fire assay I was always aware of a certain mystique regarding the process, and a definite feeling that it is perhaps more art than science.

I have to admit, however, that I never quite found the Philosopher's Stone, and every time I recovered the mercury from processing amalgam it always seemed to still be only mercury. I never found any evidence of one bit of it turning to gold. Regardless, playing with the recovery of gold, even with our modern points of view, has a mystery and romanticism equal to any of the alchemist's tales of old.

On the forum, we try to dissuade people from posting about it first of all because it shows up in search engines. It is a mix of science and magic, sorcery and illusion. We strive to be a scientific community and magic has no place in modern science. This subject has been discussed before and I could name a couple of members who were banned because they insisted on discussing it as if it were a true science. I know I sound like a broken record but you can't get gold out of beer bottle glass or out of poop but the stories do pop up from time to time. Usually when something comes up along these lines, the inventor is asking for financial backing or something. They use language like "immature gold" "ormus gold" or "alchemy". I normally call shenanigans on it as soon as I see it, but that's just me.
 
Geo said:
Lmarc1 said:
Hi. I saw your post and have to come to at least a small defense of your choice of terminology for your title. Gold refining and assay have been compared to alchemy innumerable times over the years, and I'm not absolutely certain that genuine alchemy wasn't instrumental in discovery of fire and wet chemical processes. In my years doing fire assay I was always aware of a certain mystique regarding the process, and a definite feeling that it is perhaps more art than science.

I have to admit, however, that I never quite found the Philosopher's Stone, and every time I recovered the mercury from processing amalgam it always seemed to still be only mercury. I never found any evidence of one bit of it turning to gold. Regardless, playing with the recovery of gold, even with our modern points of view, has a mystery and romanticism equal to any of the alchemist's tales of old.

On the forum, we try to dissuade people from posting about it first of all because it shows up in search engines. It is a mix of science and magic, sorcery and illusion. We strive to be a scientific community and magic has no place in modern science. This subject has been discussed before and I could name a couple of members who were banned because they insisted on discussing it as if it were a true science. I know I sound like a broken record but you can't get gold out of beer bottle glass or out of poop but the stories do pop up from time to time. Usually when something comes up along these lines, the inventor is asking for financial backing or something. They use language like "immature gold" "ormus gold" or "alchemy". I normally call shenanigans on it as soon as I see it, but that's just me.

I was certainly not advocating alchemy or any other brand of nonsensical pseudo-science that crops up regularly in most discussions of gold or the search for it. I merely meant that, because some processes, especially fire analysis, are of ancient origin they do get equated metaphorically at times.

My apologies to all.
 
No apology needed or expected. That was not meant as an admonishment but just an explanation of the nature of that particular subject.

It's okay, your good.
 
Geo said:
I know I sound like a broken record but you can't get gold out of beer bottle glass or out of poop but the stories do pop up from time to time. Usually when something comes up along these lines, the inventor is asking for financial backing or something. They use language like "immature gold" "ormus gold" or "alchemy". I normally call shenanigans on it as soon as I see it, but that's just me.
That is not only you, we area quite a lot of people here that keeps the pseudo sciences off the forum. :mrgreen:

Göran
 

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