DANGER HELP!!!!!!!!

[calgoldrecyclers]

whats that all about anyway? why is he talking about that on this forum? seems a bit inapropriate. we are here to discuss refining etc, not what you are bringing to the table.
please refrain from such pointless banter.

 

[Irons]

Gives a whole new meaning to Samizdat. :twisted:

 

[Harold_V]

whats that all about anyway? why is he talking about that on this forum? seems a bit inapropriate. we are here to discuss refining etc, not what you are bringing to the table.
please refrain from such pointless banter.

Check his personal page and you'll understand his post.

Given the power to make the decision-----he'd be banned from the board for making that post. I have no patience with people like that.

It's up to Noxx to make that determination. He's the boss.

Harold

 

[lazylightning]

Well believe me, I had no intention to offend anyone here. It seemed to me this was quite an adult forum made up of all guys that chat about all kinds of other stuff. It was here that I got the link from someone about the hillarious banned French commercial.

Please accept my apology. I'm sorry. I won't post anything off topic again.

 

[peter i]

Well “acceptable behaviour” is an elastic thing, and so is sense of humour. I restrain my Scandinavian style quite a bit, knowing that it is not understood in some parts of the world.
When people do something that others find offensive, they should point it out in a civilized manner, and if well behaved, the offenders know that they went a step too far. (Or realize that they have met some horrible prudes/fanatics just waiting for an excuse to be offended. Some people actively use “offended” and “hurt” as a way to impose their will on others).

But the moderators call the shots, end we must accept it or leave.
If a person is warned, and then keep on doing it, he should of course be banned. But banning first time offenders without warning, should only be done in very serious cases like spamming, fraud or criminal intension.
To accept that “I went too far” is a valuable thing to be able to do.

(Remember, that unless we sometimes cross the limit, how should we be able to tell where it is? Fear of instantaneous banning will kill a good debate).

 

[Harold_V]

For the record, I did not request this individual be banned. However, were it up to me, that's exactly what I'd have done. Adults generally don't have to be advised to use acceptable language in a public setting, no more than they need to be told to not build a camp fire in a hotel lobby.

I don't care how you kick this issue around, there was no need for the post to begin with, especially when it had nothing to do with refining of precious metals. I was nothing short of outraged by the use of the F word, which has no place on this forum.

No, it's not because I'm against the use of bad language. I use it myself, but I don't parade my vulgarity in front of the masses, particularly when there may be ladies present---or worse--children. There may be a time for such language, but uttering vulgarity in front of hundreds of people that one does not know isn't exactly my idea of the place.

Moderators don't call the shots on this forum. Noxx, the owner and founder, does. We moderators are here to insure that the forum runs smoothly, and to handle minor problems. I answer to Noxx, in spite of the fact that I'm 68 and he's 18. My purpose is to look out for his best interest. Allowing vulgar, off topic posts isn't my idea of accomplishing that mission, but then perhaps I'm wrong. I have yet to hear from my boss.

No one need fear being banned for having an intelligent discussion on this forum, even one that gets heated, and, perhaps, is off topic. Keep it polite, and agree to disagree. Speak your piece, and do it without vulgarity and personal attacks.

As long as I'm one of the moderators, you can rest assured I will not permit anything less to stand.

If readers do not agree with my position, you have my permission to ask Noxx to dismiss me.

Harold

 

[Froggy]

My Opinion,There should be a little more slack given in the Bar&grill section, It doesnt have to deal with refining does it????? There are much worse things women and children can find on the web other than what was posted here. I think the bar&grill section should not be moderated at all! It should be free flowing and mud slinging, the other parts of the forum are for manners etc. But thats my opinion.... and I suppose it doesnt count much. :roll:

 

[calgoldrecyclers]

Peter,
How do you confuse inappropriate behavior with "sense of humor", or lack there of?
there are such things as integrity and maturity, neither, which were displayed on that previous post. we are expected to act as adults, because that is what we are. we are suposed to give youngsters a sense of value and morality. how can this be done with such comments, and (worse) links to adult sites? when we are children, we should act as children. when we are adults, we should act as adults. (put away childish ways) this is not a case for freedom of speech, as you so hint. this is a case of what ia appropriate and what is not.
to say someone has has a lack of sense of humor because he finds an off topic offensive, is preposterous.
however, the member in question appologized.
rather than leaving it at that,
you stepped in and disturbed the healing process with your (useless comments) two cents. ( in my opinion)

 

[skyline27]

Perhaps there should be a Bar and Grill "parking lot"

Freedom of speech is about protecting unpopular speech. The other kind doesn't need protection.

 

[peter i]

Peter,
How do you confuse inappropriate behavior with "sense of humor", or lack there of?
there are such things as integrity and maturity, neither, which were displayed on that previous post. we are expected to act as adults, because that is what we are. we are suposed to give youngsters a sense of value and morality. how can this be done with such comments, and (worse) links to adult sites? when we are children, we should act as children. when we are adults, we should act as adults. (put away childish ways) this is not a case for freedom of speech, as you so hint. this is a case of what ia appropriate and what is not.
to say someone has has a lack of sense of humor because he finds an off topic offensive, is preposterous.
however, the member in question appologized.
rather than leaving it at that,
you stepped in and disturbed the healing process with your (useless comments) two cents. ( in my opinion)

There is a large cultural element to what is “inappropriate behaviour”. In some parts of the world, the sight of a nipple (ooops, can I write that horrible word?) on television creates an uproar, while nobody bothers when the news show a person being killed in the street (but he must be referred to as “a suspect” while showing the kill). In Denmark nobody would raise an eyebrow over a nipple (apart from a select few religious/moral extremists) , but a killing (no matter the reason) would be handled carefully.
I am not accusing anybody for lack of humour; I just say that it is very different what is funny or not around the world. This requires both tact from the person talking and the person listening.

“you stepped in and disturbed the healing process with your (useless comments) two cents. ( in my opinion)”

What (or who) was hurt? Refusing to talk about a potential problem seldom solves it, it just lets it stew until next time.
Freedom of speech is great, but it means that people you don’t agree with are heard too. What more is there to say? Opinions are like… well, we all have them.

 

[calgoldrecyclers]

Peter,
In response to your last:
You were coming in from left field. Apologies stated. item finished.
Enter peter: he gives his dissertation on lack of sense of humo(u)r, etc.
If you dont have anything productive to say, then why say anything at all?
are you an interuptor by nature? an instigator?
Surely you havent met all who reside in denmark, therefore, making a statement like everyone in denmark accepts a certain standard is.... whats the word? "Oh well, you know, dont you?"

 

[Lou]

Generally speaking, they are more liberal in Europe with respect to speech and censorship. Calgold, be not guilty of what you think Peter was.

Voltaire's old quote of "I may not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" is not always applicable in our society, where many have grown desensitized to vulgar or horrendous words/images. My personal opinion is that the post wasn't really pertinent, yet that site did advise that it was adult material and stated that minors should not view it. I agree with Harold and his wisdom: that we should write such that we should not be ashamed to have our mothers, sisters, or daughters read.


Having seen what such discussions of censorship quickly devolve into on other forums (intense disagreements), I STRONGLY suggest we all abandon this subject.

 

[markqf1]

Come on people, get real.
This is the bar and grill section.
You don't have to participate.
As far as women and children,... I don't take them to the bar with me.
Everybody should be able to express their opinions about anything here.
I, myself, try to refrain from offensive langauge as much as possible, out of respect for all of you.
Maybe we need some parental controls with some warnings here.
Hey, maybe Noxx could lock out all of the women and children!

Noxx?

Mark

 

[Harold_V]

Everybody should be able to express their opinions about anything here.

That's right. I agree totally. I also demand they do it with some class.

DO NOT USE VULGAR LANGUAGE ON THIS FORUM

DO NOT LAUNCH PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THIS FORUM

DO NOT POST LINKS TO PORNOGRAPHY ON THIS FORUM

DO NOT POST SPAM ON THIS FORUM

I don't give a damn if it is the Bar & Grill. No one is denying anyone their right to speak their piece, but they can do that without insulting others, or using profanity.

The reality is ----it's not just adult males that read this forum.

Unless you read a mandate from Noxx, our leader, allowing profanity and rudeness to stand, in the future, I will delete entire posts that are vulgar and I will request the individual be dismissed. I have no intentions of spending my valuable time screwing around with dolts that have no manners.

I'm speaking from years of experience on a chat group where no holds are barred. Once there are few, or no controls, things go to hell quickly. What could be a good and useful forum can be reduced to a bunch of knuckle headed dinks trying to upstage one another with profanity and insults. If that's what readers want, either I'm in the wrong place, or they are.

Harold