Gold Paste

[vipulac]

How to make Gold Paste?

 

[FrugalRefiner]

You'll have to give us more information. What kind of gold paste? What are you going to use this gold paste for?

Dave

 

[Lino1406]

Any adhesive mixed with a gold filler. It must not be pure gold, there are organic alternatives which look same

 

[g_axelsson]

You'll have to give us more information. What kind of gold paste? What are you going to use this gold paste for?

Dave

I might be guessing here... but the first post by vipulac was "Can metal detectors detect gold paste?" so I think he might be working with gold but there are a metal detector at the exit. Maybe he thinks about bringing some of it back home? :mrgreen:

My apologies to vipulac if there is a valid reason for these two questions in short succession.

Göran

 

[vipulac]

U all right
i want to know about gold paste because i train to custom offcials for airport in india, and nowadays there are so many persons smuggled gold in the form of gold paste, thats why i am asking.

They ceased much gold but they dont know what is the composition of gold paste?
how to recover gold from paste?

please share some information about gold paste

thanks

 

[4metals]

Years ago I used to make gold paste from atomized gold powder, both pure and karat alloys. The powder was mixed with pine oil and applied and melted in a kiln.

And yes the paste was detectable with a metal detector. I was recently stopped coming back from Italy (Well before the corona issues) and I had a 1 ounce sample of atomized copper in my carry on. And the metal detector picked it up.

If the customs department has confiscated a decent amount of paste they should go to a jeweler and have some melted and send it out for fire assay. Then they will know if it is worth getting excited about.

 

[g_axelsson]

4metals, was the paste picked up in the metal detector or the x-ray scanner?

Coming back from visiting Jon this summer I was stopped at every security check, the gold powder I had in a glass vial was black on the x-ray, it's opaque to x-rays as it is so dense. I had to show it and explain it at every stop.

Based on the physics behind metal detectors and x-rays, if you only want to bring gold with you undetected then it's easy to fool a metal detector, an x-ray machine not as easily.

Göran

 

[Justincase]

How would you make a fine gold powder?
I was considering just using a fine file and collecting a small amount, but that might not be fine enough.
I would like to mix it with clear adhesive or resin and try to fix some items of mine that I broke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintsugi

 

[BShan]

Purpose is to avoid metal detectors, then perhaps it is a salt paste and not metallic paste.

 

[Justincase]

Purpose is to avoid metal detectors, then perhaps it is a salt paste and not metallic paste.

Why bother when you could cast a low gold alloy into just about anything. Do you know how many cheep video cameras and other consumer items that have large, chunky metallic weights as part of the design?
Unfortunately you would need intelligence lead rummage teams with XRF scanners to test all metals to counter that import properly.
Doggy book ends, aluminium crates, heck even the bodies of aluminium cases would not be that hard to manufacture.

 

[Ohiogoldfever]

We live in a world where you have to hide your gold from officials or it will be confiscated (stolen).

What a great time to be alive.

 

[BShan]

Why bother when you could cast a low gold alloy into just about anything. Do you know how many cheep video cameras and other consumer items that have large, chunky metallic weights as part of the design?
Unfortunately you would need intelligence lead rummage teams with XRF scanners to test all metals to counter that import properly.
Doggy book ends, aluminium crates, heck even the bodies of aluminium cases would not be that hard to manufacture.

Seems like in some countries, the export tax is so high on gold, it becomes lucrative to smuggle it. I do recall reading about smuggling paste sachets under hair pieces. And thinking to myself how weird to smuggle "paste".

I think the way the question is framed, they have paste which they know is gold, but don't know how to recover the gold. I think if they detected it was gold, they should know what form it's in and how to recover it. Otherwise, they should find or make connections with other local trusted companies which would have the knowledge to help, like jeweler.

I think I just needed to re|read| 4metals and Görans posts. Guess I needed more coffee

 

[Yggdrasil]

Norway actually have vat on precious metals. That means it is lucrative to smuggle in and export out.
Export means you get the vat refunded, they do not ask if it has been paid in the first place.
I think they have caught a few.

 

[Justincase]

Norway actually have vat on precious metals. That means it is lucrative to smuggle in and export out.
Export means you get the vat refunded, they do not ask if it has been paid in the first place.
I think they have caught a few.

That is why the UK made Gold completely VAT free.
Back in the day, there were more than a few firms specialising in supplying the jewellery trade with gold bought aboard and smuggled back in.
It was seen as easier work than drug smuggling, and the dogs could not smell it.
The main issue is now unethical gold being transported undocumented and mixed in with legitimate supplies.
There are quite a number of large players who have been brought down by a lack of care when sourcing material.
It is interesting to see so much effort being put into catching individuals with a few ounces of metal for their own financial security, when hundreds of kilos of unethical gold somehow makes its way to the world's largest refiners every year with very little interference.

 

[Yggdrasil]

That is how it always are.
The big fish gets off because they are big.
Unless they tick off someone they should not.