Micron Gold Recovery method from recycled water desired

[bigcats374]

Hi group,
I found and joined this forum in hopes that someone might be able to advise me on the better methods for recovering micron gold from a known water source.
I do prospect and mine gold, I also use a version of the Desert Fox called a Gold Miners Wheel on 3 seperate water tanks that hold around 80 gallons of water that is filtered and recycled.
The more dirt I process the more micron gold gets added to the recycling water tanks and I have absolutely no clue as to how to go about recovering this gold or if there is even a way to do so.
I also have 2 grams of fine gold that turned into micron gold when it was exposed to a mixture of Postasium Chloride and salt water with Jet dry added to this mixture. Any thoughts and ideas on how to recover this gold will also be welcomed.
Thanks, Bill H

 

[patnor1011]

Hi group, ................... absolutely no clue as to how to go about recovering this gold or if there is even a way to do so................

Do you talk about recovering fine powder like particles of gold from dirt or black sand, or about so called Micron gold wonder recovered from water?

If the later is the cause just google up information about that and you will see that it can be done but it will take years and gold recovered will cost you probably 100 times more than recent spot price.

 

[Geo]

gold from water? its been discussed on the forum recently but the consensus was to forget about such ventures and concentrate on more known methods of gold recovery. the money you will spend on this and the return will break your heart. you may be better off using the money to buy gold of known purity.

 

[Paul goldbugg]

At least 10 years ago i was in a micron gold recovery yahoo group where a man from pa offered to assay any water, we thought might have gold in it.
Claimed 40 years assaying water. I had my doubts about it all for sure i never had enough $$ to throw it away. First water i sent him from the shaft that i collected in late fall that year came back at 0.273ppm, at that time gold was 800$ something like 3.5 cents per gal. After research the book learned folks say
there has never been this high of gold in water ever tested and to this day i have never seen poof that you can recover anything below 1ppm.
Learned a lot but mostly a huge waste of my time lol

 

[goldshark]

There are 2 ways to recover micron Au that I know of. 1 is to run the water over a mercury table, which many people frown upon, and floatation. An aquaintence had a Mercury table that he ran with just water, no aggregate, running over the surface. I was certainly amazed at the rapid change to the gold color from the Silver mirror finish, by the end of the day. I never heard back on the recovered Au, so cannot honestly state what the return vs investment would be. This was at a placer mine which was recovering a considerable amount of Au.
I have always wanted to build a boil box at the end of a sluice run. This would consist of an under flow tailings disposal, using the grease and oil from the heavy equipment, to float the Au, and capture the oils from further contaminating the water. Collect the oil/scum at the end of the day to see what it assays. Most of the Au in the world is micron in size, and readily floatable. I haven't gotten around to this experiment yet, as most big operators are hesitant about untried techniques, and I may bruise some egos, if it works.

 

[Mark Weber]

Hi group,
I found and joined this forum in hopes that someone might be able to advise me on the better methods for recovering micron gold from a known water source.
I do prospect and mine gold, I also use a version of the Desert Fox called a Gold Miners Wheel on 3 seperate water tanks that hold around 80 gallons of water that is filtered and recycled.
The more dirt I process the more micron gold gets added to the recycling water tanks and I have absolutely no clue as to how to go about recovering this gold or if there is even a way to do so.
I also have 2 grams of fine gold that turned into micron gold when it was exposed to a mixture of Postasium Chloride and salt water with Jet dry added to this mixture. Any thoughts and ideas on how to recover this gold will also be welcomed.
Thanks, Bill H

Hi Bigcats374- can you tell me the micron size range of the micron gold?
Also is their much density to the micron gold...is it heavier than water?
Will it sink?
Cheers
mark
[email protected]

 

[Yggdrasil]

Hi Bigcats374- can you tell me the micron size range of the micron gold?
Also is their much density to the micron gold...is it heavier than water?
Will it sink?
Cheers
mark
[email protected]

Welcome to us.
I deleted your other post as we do not allow double posting.
Gold always has the density of 19.3
And micron Gold refers to the size of the particles as beeing in the micron range.
Example 1 micron or 10 microns and so on.
Water has a density of 1.
So in theory it should sinc, but when things get so small there are a lot of other effects coming into play.
So when particles of anything get small enough the may stay in suspension.

 

[Mark Weber]

Welcome to us.
I deleted your other post as we do not allow double posting.
Gold always has the density of 19.3
And micron Gold refers to the size of the particles as beeing in the micron range.
Example 1 micron or 10 microns and so on.
Water has a density of 1.
So in theory it should sink, but when things get so small there are a lot of other effects coming into play.
So when particles of anything get small enough the may stay in suspension.

Thank you for your response.
Can you give me an idea of micron range
How small?
How large?
What would be the mean micron size over a sample you may have?
What kind of flow - volume would you have of this micron gold?
Thanks
Mark

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thank you for your response.
Can you give me an idea of micron range
How small?
How large?
What would be the mean micron size over a sample you may have?
What kind of flow - volume would you have of this micron gold?
Thanks
Mark

There is no way to answer that question without more information.
Micron is simply one millionth of a meter.
So I'd guess that something in the size of 1-100 micron will fit the description micron size.

 

[Mark Weber]

There is no way to answer that question without more information.
Micron is simply one millionth of a meter.
So I'd guess that something in the size of 1-100 micron will fit the description micron size.

Thank you that
0ne to 100 micron is okay
Even say under 1 mm is okay.
Is this usually clean water or recycled process water.
Will there be other contaminants in the water?
What are they?
Would the gold micron, get coated with oil contamination
Any idea as to the flow rates you are talking about.
Thanks
Mark

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thank you that
0ne to 100 micron is okay
Even say under 1 mm is okay.
Is this usually clean water or recycled process water.
Will there be other contaminants in the water?
What are they?
Would the gold micron, get coated with oil contamination
Any idea as to the flow rates you are talking about.
Thanks
Mark

You make no sense.
No one can answer this without you saying what kind of water you are talking about.
1 mm is 1000 microns and are in the mm scale. This size will sink very fast.

You need to privide us with much more infirmation mate.

 

[Mark Weber]

Thank you
I work for a company, as a consultant (as I have retired) that has Liquid- liquid separation technology, no moving parts.
We have designed a Liquid- Solids separator that will separate down to 20 micron size of solids.
We have been testing it on sand/soil flows of river water before a Reverse Osmosis water treatment plant - with 95 % removal of sand, silica in micron sizes!
The overflow is water, the underflow is solids.. no moving parts, you need to pump the water thru it.
That is why i ask you the questions
What is the flow of water?
Is the water contaminated with anything??

Appreciate an answer mate.
Mark

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thank you
I work for a company, as a consultant (as I have retired) that has Liquid- liquid separation technology, no moving parts.
We have designed a Liquid- Solids separator that will separate down to 20 micron size of solids.
We have been testing it on sand/soil flows of river water before a Reverse Osmosis water treatment plant - with 95 % removal of sand, silica in micron sizes!
The overflow is water, the underflow is solids.. no moving parts, you need to pump the water thru it.
That is why i ask you the questions
What is the flow of water?
Is the water contaminated with anything??

Appreciate an answer mate.
Mark

We have no data on waterflows and quality around the world.
You are the one sitting in the business end of this.
No one else can answer this than you.
You knows the pump size and inlet water quality.
No one here can answer these things.
Or maybe you are asking for something else, if so please rephrase.

Edit for spelling.

 

[Mark Weber]

Thanks

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thanks

To put this into perspective.
You may be phrasing this wrong since your question equals for me to ask you what flow and quality of water I have in my house.
Obviously you can not answer that.
Neither can we on the flow and quality of your water.

 

[goldshark]

Thank you for your response.
Can you give me an idea of micron range
How small?
How large?
What would be the mean micron size over a sample you may have?
What kind of flow - volume would you have of this micron gold?
Thanks
Mark

I think we are talking about Gold in either the nanometer range at the largest size, or individual atoms of AgCl.group. No nuggets floating around.

 

[4metals]

Is this type of feed possibly separated using centripetal separation? A flow through separator can clarify your recycling water and collect whatever it holds until you clean it out. Companies like Alfa Laval make a whole line of separators and a talk with them may yield results.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thanks

Aah I see now.
You replied to Bigcat.
His post is from 2012 and he has not been seen here since March 2012.