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pesaru

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Hey there

It's Mosén, I'm a to-be-metallurgist since I've found deposits a little while ago. I am gonna mine the precious metals personally; so there's no way I can let the regime in Iran put their hands on it.
They have their mega-equipmets, facilities, refineries and scientists. I am, on the other side, a newly aquintanced with the field but with great incentives and effort.

I hope I could use your instructions and someday help others like me.
 
The main issue I have today is to reduce metal silver from silver chloride. I could use your help on this. Thank you all
 
The main issue I have today is to reduce metal silver from silver chloride. I could use your help on this. Thank you all
Welcome to us.
We like our new members to read up and study, so we have a few things we like new members to do.
One benefit is that one comes in a position to ask the best/correct questions.
So here it is:
1. Read C.M. Hokes book on refining jewelers scrap, it gives an easy introduction to the most important chemistry regarding refining.
It is free here on the forum:
https://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=197982. Then read the safety section of the forum
3. And then read about "Dealing with waste" in the forum
 
The main issue I have today is to reduce metal silver from silver chloride. I could use your help on this. Thank you all
One thing we need to know is how the Silver Chloride is at this time.
Is it cleaned, is it wet or dry?
There are mainly two routes for wet AgCl, dilute Sulfuric-Iron or NaOH - sugar.
If it is dry it can be smelted with flux but it creates some losses.
 
Welcome to us.
We like our new members to read up and study, so we have a few things we like new members to do.
One benefit is that one comes in a position to ask the best/correct questions.
So here it is:
1. Read C.M. Hokes book on refining jewelers scrap, it gives an easy introduction to the most important chemistry regarding refining.
It is free here on the forum:
https://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=197982. Then read the safety section of the forum
3. And then read about "Dealing with waste" in the forum
Hi @Yggdrasil Thank you very much for the quote. I have started reading C.M. Hoke the moment I registered on the website and the book was introduced to me. It's a piece of art indeed! Like many other references, C. M. Hoke also supposes precious metals wastes as the raw material (at least the title of the book says so) and one thing I would like you admins to please kindly keep in mind that I am working with ores and earth; and dealing with them in many aspects differs from the approaches we take when the raw material is wastes. I hope I could learn from you guys in here. Thank you.
 
So you are starting with the raw mineral Chloragyrite? What do the heads assay? How much can you mine and process in a day? What facilities to process, and equipment do you have? This is a god starting point
 
One thing we need to know is how the Silver Chloride is at this time.
Is it cleaned, is it wet or dry?
Therare mainly two routes for wet AgCl, dilute Sulfuric-Iron or NaOH - sugar.
If it is dry it can be smelted with flux but it creates some losses.
Also, I am producing Silver Chlorides continuously on a daily basis, so they are partly dry, partly wet, and partly cleaned. An amount of 1400 grams of my Silver Chlorides are now completely cleaned, I have washed them with a near boiling temperature water several times, each time for more than 15-20 minutes.
Let me ask please, can i use dilute (10% dilute) HCl instead of Sulfuric Acid in Sulfuric Acid-Iron or Sulfuric Acid-Zink methods?
 
I have two important questions. Look at these two advices that I have read on the internet:

1-
Cheapest and easiest way to turn silver chloride to Silver metal is to let it sit out in the sun; if you want to do it fast get an ultraviolet light and a magnetic stirrer and magnetically stir it as you have the ultraviolet light on it and within a few hours you will have a silver metal. But if you want to do it over a couple days just let it sit out in the sun and stir it occasionally and then when it turns to a dark gray you have silver metal. (Rickard L Jones)

Is it scientifically true and can I trust the advice?

and 2- You might try the simple method of converting your silver chloride to silver metal via mixing an equal weight amount of steel wool (Joseph Cummins)

What about this one? and if the answer is positive, then comes the question that, is this done with both substances dry or in water, if so how much H20?

Thank you all
 
I have two important questions. Look at these two advices that I have read on the internet:

1-
Cheapest and easiest way to turn silver chloride to Silver metal is to let it sit out in the sun; if you want to do it fast get an ultraviolet light and a magnetic stirrer and magnetically stir it as you have the ultraviolet light on it and within a few hours you will have a silver metal. But if you want to do it over a couple days just let it sit out in the sun and stir it occasionally and then when it turns to a dark gray you have silver metal. (Rickard L Jones)

Is it scientifically true and can I trust the advice?

and 2- You might try the simple method of converting your silver chloride to silver metal via mixing an equal weight amount of steel wool (Joseph Cummins)

What about this one? and if the answer is positive, then comes the question that, is this done with both substances dry or in water, if so how much H20?

Thank you all
First and foremost.
If your SilverChloride is dry, there is practically only one way of doing it, smelting with flux and there will be losses according to what has been discussed here.
Wet cleaned Silver Chloride is usually processed by either NaOH and sugar.
Or dilute Sulfuric 10% and Iron.
Search the forum and read the threads discussing it.
Edit to add:
And no, HCl can not be used.
No the sunlight will turn only the Surface in to Silver Oxide and it is never a complete process with in a sensible processing time.
It needs grinding over and over again.
 
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