hi all , I tried with the blue lable again and got same results , no good.So I went to a masonry store and got another type of muriatic acid to test.will post results.the old acids I used from home depot with different labels seem to be the same stuff,just different labels,so I guess bad labeling. cost at home depot and loes is $9.95 per gallon with no % marking,new bottle frm masonry store is 31.5 %. I think I am on the right path, ed.