smj said:
Thank you, i really appreciate your advice. It will take some time to understand the whole process as i have no
experience in this trade,i have seen a few topics on the "Shor" products. it looks simple from the way they make it out to be.
Heh! Learn to play the piano in six easy lessons?
Do you really think that's going to happen?
I have no doubt that what Shor promotes works, but Rhodium's comments ring true.
I could do the same thing for you---put together a recipe for success----step one----step two, step three, etc., and provide all of the reagents, although without names, just numbers. Use reagent #2 for this operation, use reagent #5 for this operation. While you may end up with the desired goal, what do you do when something doesn't work out as you hoped?
I have been with this forum since its inception. I am the first registered reader. I struggled endlessly to have other readers understand the significance of studying Hoke. Many felt it wasn't a requirement, especially since their objective was to pursue e scrap, which she does not cover. Still, I persisted. What readers didn't understand well is that Hoke will teach readers the basics, which, once understood, can be applied to any and all substances you are inclined to encounter.
I feel it is now safe to say that the vast majority of readers understand that Hoke is the basic reference and informational source. There are other books and documents that are available, but Hoke is unique in that she teaches refining in basic terms. You need not have a chemical background, nor be familiar with any of the processes. She holds your hand and carries you through each and every step, providing enough information that you can make informed decisions. My recommendation is for you to avoid any of the magic gee whiz kits, methods and other nonsense. It's like playing the piano. There's one way you can learn to do so, and that is to adhere to accepted practice, then to apply yourself regularly.
i was thinking of buying one of there "SubZero/Aqua-Regia Gold Refining Starter kit" for $55.Supplies include: Storm Precipitant, Precious Metal Detection Liquid, Ammonia Detection Liquid, Urea, SubZero & Instructions. After reading there version on refing it seemed much more simple or less detailed than Hoke's version. Don't get me wrong, i'm just trying to make sense of it all. What is your thoughts on this. I see that they missed a few steps in their instructions, or so i think....
Speaking to you as a friend, my first reaction is that you are not thinking. You are looking for the magic bullet that will take the learning curve out of refining.
There is no such bullet.
If you are interested in refining, start reading Hoke, and don't stop until everything you read makes sense. The reason I am suggesting this is because it's exactly how I came to refine. If it can work for me, it can work for anyone. I am not a great reader, having less than acceptable comprehension skills, and, at best, not a good reader, yet, with book in hand, I spent hours in my garage (then my "lab") reading and applying her excellent instructions, learning how to test, which is key to success. I then thought myself clever and did a few things she had already recommended one avoid, including attempting to part gold alloy electrolytically. In the end, I resorted to her teachings, to the letter. The only changes I ever made were in handling silver, and in my washing procedures of the final refined gold. I also incinerated without the use of gasoline (petrol).
Study Hoke, and don't get sucked in by any of the promotional kits-----which are designed to do one thing, and one thing only----which is to make the seller wealthy.
Most of all, have patience. Like learning to play a musical instrument, it won't happen in a day, or even a month. You will spend a considerable amount of time learning and gaining the required skills to enjoy the success you seek. There are no shortcuts.
The picture I posted previously of gold shot is the results you can achieve, assuming you stay the course.
Harold
