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why is this happening? Then I’m left with the lead ball
maybe you could help me on this one.Welcome to us.
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why is this happening? Then I’m left with the lead ball
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To me it looks like a fried egg on top of some Lead.
So please give us more information.
I did a smelt. Retrieved the lead button. then cupeling with a torch and this is what I got. A gold glazed broken cup with a lead bead left
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That doesn't look like a cupel to me, looks like a melt dish. 2 different animals. It is almost impossible to cupel with a torch, need a special muffle furnace to cupel properly. Much on the forum concerning cupeling,I believe under assaying. Love the respirator in your avatar, very sexy.
Cupelling are done in special cupels, not in dishes.
I suggest you study some more.
If you need a few cupels feel free to PM and I will send you some for free.
A few observations if you don't mind:
1) button looks too shiny to be lead, I suspect silver. Lead tends towards dull gray when torched and leaves red/yellow compounds condensed around the top of edge of the dish, of course the flux could be protecting the top of lead from oxidation and leaving it shiny.
2) respirators are meant for rescue and/or escape operations, not full time use. Think of them as get in and get out devices to be employed during an emergency. Even the highest rated filters (eg military and nato certified) are only good for an hour or less exposure time depending on toxicity levels and the environmental conditions.
3) Consider setting up a fume control system for melting and refining operations. Keep your respirator close by if SHTF.
Welcome to the forum!
Steve
A few observations if you don't mind:
1) button looks too shiny to be lead, I suspect silver. Lead tends towards dull gray when torched and leaves red/yellow compounds condensed around the top of edge of the dish, of course the flux could be protecting the top of lead from oxidation and leaving it shiny.
2) respirators are meant for rescue and/or escape operations, not full time use. Think of them as get in and get out devices to be employed during an emergency. Even the highest rated filters (eg military and nato certified) are only good for an hour or less exposure time depending on toxicity levels and the environmental conditions.
3) Consider setting up a fume control system for melting and refining operations. Keep your respirator close by if SHTF.
Welcome to the forum!
Steve
https://goldrefiningforum.com/searc...&q=Respirator&c[users]=lazersteve&o=relevanceClick the link above then hit the search button for more on respirators.
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I have a proposition for you, or for somebody that is trusted. My house has been built on an ancient riverbed that happens to be filled with a lot of gold, silver copper, possibly platinum I would like to send somebody who’s experience in refining a bag of already powdered ore. Yours to keep and maybe after that, we can talk more. You see on the kind of person that believes there is enough abundance for everyone to go around. I’m not a greedy person. I would like to learn much more about refining, but with my ADHA brain, I need step-by-step instructions, or scoping with somebody or hiring somebody to just do it. I don’t know as much as I would love to learn I do have a five year old and I don’t really wanna have those chemicals around my house. Anyway, let me know if you’re interested or if you know anybody who would be interested in that.
Thank Lexifer
Martijn
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This leaves some questions: Is the riverbed your property? Do you have the miners- or prospectors rights?
This is not really 'ore', but natures panning concentrates called alluvial deposits, which can be high or low in different spots.
Assaying these deposits can be misleading. You need to run a couple of yards of pay to know, and that it's is still a game of luck to some point.
An assay is only telling what is possibly there, not how much. It depends on the way you took a sample. So what do you want to achieve with having it refined or tested?
The "Your's to keep" 'offer' is actually US law, as I understood from Lou, and you still need to pay for an assay. So your 'offer' is interpreted by some members as offensive.
Martijn.
Of course payment for assay and in no way was I trying to offend. I guess I was trying to offer more than people usually give out. I’m not always great with words. Yes of course I have prospecting rights. I’m not a thief. And I’m starting to feel like maybe this space isn’t for me. I’m 41 and smart! Just want to be respected like anyone else. Thanks anyways.
Lexifer.
Martijn
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Maybe. I'm 48 and really stupid. But I like it here. Lots of info and a great BS filter.
What did you find by panning those natural cons? Thats how it was placered there so thats hiw you heed to recover and goncentrate further. Then have it tested. But you'll figure it out, I'm sure.
You have my respect, but we have to look out to prevent people getting in trouble with the law or chemistry. Not everybody is smart, some think they are, some truly are.
Not me. I mostly ask stupid questions.
But giving an answer to questions asked could be considered smart.
Martijn.
What did you find by panning those natural cons? Thats how it was placered there so thats hiw you heed to recover and goncentrate further. Then have it tested. But you'll figure it out, I'm sure.
You have my respect, but we have to look out to prevent people getting in trouble with the law or chemistry. Not everybody is smart, some think they are, some truly are.
Not me. I mostly ask stupid questions.
But giving an answer to questions asked could be considered smart.
Martijn.
I resemble that remark!
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No 20' tall solid gold statues involved ...
