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Hi Guys

I Collected 2KG Old Ceramic Capacitors

How Much Palladium and Silver Extract From These Capacitors ?

Thanks
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Hi Guys

I Collected 2KG Old Ceramic Capacitors

How Much Palladium and Silver Extract From These Capacitors ?

Thanks
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Most are probably worthless, but for anyone give a hint you need to sort them, and then weigh them.
After that we need close ups of each kind, better that you do the research on google.
Even if they look the same they might not be.
 
Most are probably worthless, but for anyone give a hint you need to sort them, and then weigh them.
After that we need close ups of each kind, better that you do the research on google.
Even if they look the same they might not be.
what do you mean worthless?
if you look carefully you see square orange ussr capacitors
it take time to sort
how much palladium or silver you guess i can extract?
 
There are some intriguing looking ones, but overall not too much. At least, I do not directly see any famous KMs or other good types. With a good bit of imagination maybe Bulgarian type MLCCs.. But not to be appreciated in the whole look. Majority are disc ones, fairly new, just bit of silver. Old square and disc ones tend to have slightly more Ag, Soviet red ceramic caps tend to have relatively good silver. But overall, not much Pd to be found here. You need to sort them out, as the low-end of these caps isn´t even worth processing in smaller scale (big disc ones, new, few g Ag/kg, very tedious process to get silver from tin alloys).

Sort out all MLCCs apart of just ceramic caps. Then you can throw them to the batch together with your previous batch of MLCCs.

PS: Asking about yield of some mixed components is not a good question (like your third post about yields of certain pile/boards). You cannot reliably build any "database" for yields of piles of mixed scrap. That just don´t work. You can burn yourself financially very very badly if you start taking decisions upon some guesstimate numbers out of somebody´s else assumptions. This is how you won´t build sucessfull operation.
 
There are some intriguing looking ones, but overall not too much. At least, I do not directly see any famous KMs or other good types. With a good bit of imagination maybe Bulgarian type MLCCs.. But not to be appreciated in the whole look. Majority are disc ones, fairly new, just bit of silver. Old square and disc ones tend to have slightly more Ag, Soviet red ceramic caps tend to have relatively good silver. But overall, not much Pd to be found here. You need to sort them out, as the low-end of these caps isn´t even worth processing in smaller scale (big disc ones, new, few g Ag/kg, very tedious process to get silver from tin alloys).

Sort out all MLCCs apart of just ceramic caps. Then you can throw them to the batch together with your previous batch of MLCCs.

PS: Asking about yield of some mixed components is not a good question (like your third post about yields of certain pile/boards). You cannot reliably build any "database" for yields of piles of mixed scrap. That just don´t work. You can burn yourself financially very very badly if you start taking decisions upon some guesstimate numbers out of somebody´s else assumptions. This is how you won´t build sucessfull operation.
thank for your advice
understood
 
I Collected 2KG Old Ceramic Capacitors
Some of what is in that pile are not ceramic capacitors but are tantalum capacitors - they (tantalum) are "tear drop" shaped

then there are some that are not capacitors at all (have more the 2 wires coming out of them)

Not real sure (being in a "pile" rather then spread out) but some may even be aluminum foil & not ceramic

And as has already been pointed out ---------
Majority are disc ones, fairly new, just bit of silver. Old square and disc ones tend to have slightly more Ag, Soviet red ceramic caps tend to have relatively good silver. But overall, not much Pd

Per the bold print - just a bit of silver & little to NO Pd

IMO - your time - the chem (whether leaching or smelting) will cost MORE then the little bit of silver (& MAYBE some Pd) you will recover

Acid leaching ceramics is the absolute worst way you can go about processing ceramic caps

Smelting is really the only way to go & even then is really only "cost effective" if you are sure they are high in Pd --- so you need to know which ones a high in Pd or you will be wasting time/money for a little bit of silver

Do not trust You Tube Videos - most of them are full of misinformation & even out right wrong information

We spend more time here on the forum fixing the problems & messes new members come here with after first watching You Tube videos & following the advice of "backyard You Tube hacks" that have no clue what they are doing

Kurt
 
Some of what is in that pile are not ceramic capacitors but are tantalum capacitors - they (tantalum) are "tear drop" shaped

then there are some that are not capacitors at all (have more the 2 wires coming out of them)

Not real sure (being in a "pile" rather then spread out) but some may even be aluminum foil & not ceramic

And as has already been pointed out ---------


Per the bold print - just a bit of silver & little to NO Pd

IMO - your time - the chem (whether leaching or smelting) will cost MORE then the little bit of silver (& MAYBE some Pd) you will recover

Acid leaching ceramics is the absolute worst way you can go about processing ceramic caps

Smelting is really the only way to go & even then is really only "cost effective" if you are sure they are high in Pd --- so you need to know which ones a high in Pd or you will be wasting time/money for a little bit of silver

Do not trust You Tube Videos - most of them are full of misinformation & even out right wrong information

We spend more time here on the forum fixing the problems & messes new members come here with after first watching You Tube videos & following the advice of "backyard You Tube hacks" that have no clue what they are doing

Kurt
Hi Friend
I Removed All Aluminum Foil Capacitors And This Is Mix Of Ceramic Capacitors And Tantalum Capacitors
I Never Trust Youtube Videos
I Know Smelting Is Best Way For Refining PGMs and Gold
Best Regards
 
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