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Material: 240 g. old transistors and logic IC, casing is usually made from ferrous alloy (magnetic) which didnt rust, so probably some FeNi alloy (i´ll get them XRF analyzed when it will be possible). bottoms are heavily gold plated, wires also. bottom parts seem to be made from non ferrous material. gold bonding wires.
yield vary widely from piece to piece, logic ICs with more than 3 legs use to have some little more goodie, also the ones without resin-cast bottoms (solid metal ones). usually between 8-13g/kg.
Main issue: lots of waste metal - as usually seen in videos on YT, guys cut the top of the transistor to reduce the ammount of iron. this is seriously tedious job, this particular type is very difficult to decap... so i wanted to do the test batch with whole untouched pieces, to see if the consumption of acid is too high.
Testing few pieces with only HCl shown very slow dissolution, so with this quantity, i opted for test run in AR to see how deep would be reduction of HNO3 in this enviroment, thus directly - how much nitric would it consume to dissolve it. Doing some math (very rough), if nitric is solely present as an one electron oxidant (giving off NO2), about 750 ml (50 % tech grade) is needed to fully oxidize iron to +3, alongside with copper legs, nickel and maybe other metals involved in casing + tin/lead to +2. For elements to stay in solution, 1250 ml of hydrochloric acid (30 %) was used.
Plan was to add HCl at the start, then onset the rxn with small addition of HNO3 and slight heat, than maintain the rolling dissolution with increments of nitric that way the temperature dont exceed 70°C (for deeper reduction of nitric and reduce HCl evaporation losses).
So, to get things started, 170 ml of nitric was added and beaker was heated on a plate to temperature of 45°, when clearly the rxn started to go its way. Beaker was placed to catching "pan" and covered. Temperature steadily gone up to 85 °C (next time less acid to start obviously), and fumes had more NOCl colour than NO2 colour. When reaction started to die down, i added 40-50 mls portions of nitric acid to maintain the rolling dissolution. At the end (375 ml total added, required about 6 hours to see temperature not rising after addition), temp was 60 °. I decanted the deeply brown-yellow solution from solids. Some small leftover material (mainly epoxy/resin bottoms with "trapped" pieces of legs inside) was boiled in small beaker with few ml of nitric/HCl for hour or so, and combined with main liquid (when everything dissolved).
Cooling down to room temp, adding sulfamic acid (only 2,5-3 teaspoons required, so not very much nitric/NOCl was unreacted), adding like 3 ml of sulfuric acid just to be sure with lead... Filtering on the Buchner, then dropping gold with sodium sulfite solution.
Gold drop was quite unusual. After adding the sulfite, solution was clear with no obvious ppt (checking with strong LED light) for like 10 minutes, but scratches from stirring rod were golden after like 20 seconds... Everything very slowly started to settling. Very dense ppt. Maybe only the cold solution was causing this, or the composition of the mixture overloaded with iron... Im not sure. Maybe its common, but for me - first time
Tomorrow, i will finish it and get some yield of this, but after all, the process for 240g needed "only" 375 ml of nitric (50%). This was very satisfying observation for me, because my access to nitric is very limited. If the metal content was about 220g (original weight minus plastic bottoms+some silicon), rough molar ratio of metal to nitric was 1:1,06. So clearly, deeper than one electron reduction overall occured. HCl must have also helped a lot with oxidation of iron portion.
Material: 240 g. old transistors and logic IC, casing is usually made from ferrous alloy (magnetic) which didnt rust, so probably some FeNi alloy (i´ll get them XRF analyzed when it will be possible). bottoms are heavily gold plated, wires also. bottom parts seem to be made from non ferrous material. gold bonding wires.
yield vary widely from piece to piece, logic ICs with more than 3 legs use to have some little more goodie, also the ones without resin-cast bottoms (solid metal ones). usually between 8-13g/kg.
Main issue: lots of waste metal - as usually seen in videos on YT, guys cut the top of the transistor to reduce the ammount of iron. this is seriously tedious job, this particular type is very difficult to decap... so i wanted to do the test batch with whole untouched pieces, to see if the consumption of acid is too high.
Testing few pieces with only HCl shown very slow dissolution, so with this quantity, i opted for test run in AR to see how deep would be reduction of HNO3 in this enviroment, thus directly - how much nitric would it consume to dissolve it. Doing some math (very rough), if nitric is solely present as an one electron oxidant (giving off NO2), about 750 ml (50 % tech grade) is needed to fully oxidize iron to +3, alongside with copper legs, nickel and maybe other metals involved in casing + tin/lead to +2. For elements to stay in solution, 1250 ml of hydrochloric acid (30 %) was used.
Plan was to add HCl at the start, then onset the rxn with small addition of HNO3 and slight heat, than maintain the rolling dissolution with increments of nitric that way the temperature dont exceed 70°C (for deeper reduction of nitric and reduce HCl evaporation losses).
So, to get things started, 170 ml of nitric was added and beaker was heated on a plate to temperature of 45°, when clearly the rxn started to go its way. Beaker was placed to catching "pan" and covered. Temperature steadily gone up to 85 °C (next time less acid to start obviously), and fumes had more NOCl colour than NO2 colour. When reaction started to die down, i added 40-50 mls portions of nitric acid to maintain the rolling dissolution. At the end (375 ml total added, required about 6 hours to see temperature not rising after addition), temp was 60 °. I decanted the deeply brown-yellow solution from solids. Some small leftover material (mainly epoxy/resin bottoms with "trapped" pieces of legs inside) was boiled in small beaker with few ml of nitric/HCl for hour or so, and combined with main liquid (when everything dissolved).
Cooling down to room temp, adding sulfamic acid (only 2,5-3 teaspoons required, so not very much nitric/NOCl was unreacted), adding like 3 ml of sulfuric acid just to be sure with lead... Filtering on the Buchner, then dropping gold with sodium sulfite solution.
Gold drop was quite unusual. After adding the sulfite, solution was clear with no obvious ppt (checking with strong LED light) for like 10 minutes, but scratches from stirring rod were golden after like 20 seconds... Everything very slowly started to settling. Very dense ppt. Maybe only the cold solution was causing this, or the composition of the mixture overloaded with iron... Im not sure. Maybe its common, but for me - first time
Tomorrow, i will finish it and get some yield of this, but after all, the process for 240g needed "only" 375 ml of nitric (50%). This was very satisfying observation for me, because my access to nitric is very limited. If the metal content was about 220g (original weight minus plastic bottoms+some silicon), rough molar ratio of metal to nitric was 1:1,06. So clearly, deeper than one electron reduction overall occured. HCl must have also helped a lot with oxidation of iron portion.