I tested the material with stannous before I shipped it to Alentia and showed him the pictures of everything before shipping. He told me that stannous test does not mean anything after I mailed him the picture.
This is the picture
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I took very, very small increments from each batch which was to small to weigh and did these stannous test.
All of you who knows the colours can see what it is.
After shipping with FedEx the parcel gets held up by customs in Canada and is inspected and takes two weeks to get to alentia.
Finally parcel arrives and he tells me it's going to take two weeks to get proper results and he also tells me I have shipped him sand and mud.
This is our conversation I copied and pasted from my phone after 2 weeks. His name is Serge and I'm Riyoso
[03:18, 10/14/2017] gold serge : All was recovered 1.7g of Pt out of 40g of mud that is less than 5%. This does not even cover the effort. I owe you nothing. Consider you paid for assay..
[09:11, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: How is this possible, the dominant metal was pd, the 4 grams of black mud was pure st according to stannous test. The 34grams tested very high in pd. According to my test you were suppose to recover 30 to 32 grams of metal. Something is not right.
[15:04, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: ?
[15:44, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: Serge, what is going on?
[16:01, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Nothing, you sent us mud and sand and wasted my time. I would assume it was honest error from your side.
[16:05, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: Do you think catalytic converters contain nothing, why would there be 1,7grams of pt in it and the rest is nothing? I showed you the stannous test on those powders and all of them contained high pd content, the brown mud as you call it was Atleast 80percent in pd. How did you go about refining it.
It would take me one day to refine the material i sent you and than i would have pure pt and pd.
[16:08, 10/14/2017] gold serge : You have refined mud and sand, not Pt. Refined material contains at least 99% of refined material.
[16:14, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: The powder i send you was not refined, it was recovered from catalytic converters. If i were to refine it it would have been pure.
And do you think that the stannous test is a lie, the first thing you should have done was to do a stannous test or a xrf scan Atleast to determine that there is value.
I think that this is a total rippoff and i want the material back because you can't even tell me what process was used for refining or assay.
[16:16, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Stannous test is correct. It will show presence of Pt even if it's 1gr on 100.
[16:20, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: Yes, but it also gets darker the more the metal is available, I've been working pgms for 10 years now, do you think i dont know what Im doing?
Please ship back my material as it was, cause there is Atleast 30 grams or more of pure pd in it. The brown sand was also high in pd.
Please ship it back?
[16:30, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: ?
[16:48, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Are playing stupid now?
[16:52, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: I need my material back, or i Will ask the forum members to assist me in this.
You can't give a layout of what has happened to the material and how it was processed. So either you pay me or you ship my material back.
[17:22, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Please send me $35 for shipping I will ship it back to you.
[17:23, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: What is left of the material?
[17:23, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Your material, all of it.
[17:24, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: How much was used for assay?
[17:25, 10/14/2017] gold serge : Sand and mud do not dissolve in acids I used
[17:28, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: I think you dont know how to process it and now you just saying numbers.
Ship my material back on your cost because you wasted my time and money or i Will take this further.
[17:30, 10/14/2017] gold serge : I did the work, so my time is lost, you did not. If you send me $35 I will ship it back to you, otherwise I do not have budget for it.
[17:36, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: You did not do anything, because you still have all the material and are lying about results, which i know for a fact is wrong. If i show this on the forum most of the guys Will agree with me, because everyone knows how it works.
I paid 60 dollars to ship this to you, so the only one losing is me.
I Will give you time this week to get funds and ship it.
[17:39, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: Please also send me pictures of my items with weight , so that i know everything is still there.
[20:29, 10/14/2017] Riyoso: ?
