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MMFJ

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With several business-building products released individually over the last few years (some specifically for e-waste processing, others strong for business building, from start-up to pros), I have created a 'menu' with the best of them and I need some help testing the inter-workings of the package on different computers/systems before releasing it publicly.

Here's a pic of the main menu
TitleMenu.JPG

The package contains access to all 6 products, with the 'Build Confidence' book already unlocked.

Also, each Audio Course has a 15 minute 'trial' time unlocked so you can see how well you like it, etc.

If you are willing to help 'beta' test this, here's what you get;
+ the 'Build Confidence, Influence People and Get The Results You Want' ebook
+ 15 minute 'trial' time for each audio book/course (45 minutes free training)
+ one FREE product of your choice*

This offer is open to everyone, though I have my concerns about it working on Apple systems.

Note that the download is an .exe file, which some computers don't like (part of why I want to test this).

Access the download and instructions from this link http://CashFlowProducts.com/MMFJ/MenuTest

* Product unlock code will be sent to those who reply with a 'report/testimonial/bug list' (telling me how it works on your system, what you like about it, etc. - i.e., feedback!). You will receive the unlock code for one product - FREE - you can even pick which one you prefer (so all of them can be tested, the first 5 requests for any particular product will receive that one).

edit: fixed the link!
 
First, your link looks like it's dead.

Also, I am curious, are these things you have put together yourself? Or is this something you purchased to re-sell? Or does it come from somewhere else?

If you put these together, I am further curious about the third offering. "Build Confidence, Influence People, Get the results you want" The reason why I am curious is because I have a background in psychology, and wouldn't even dare to attempt something like this for several reasons. If you wrote it, I am wondering what exactly your background is, and how you are qualified to write something of this nature, and sell it with any grantee that the information contained will work for anyone.

I'm not attacking your post. I believe that before anyone tests, or specially spends any money on your items they should somehow be qualified first. Motivational speakers always have a long list of qualifications they express when selling their products. A publishing company also would require credentials and qualifications before they would publish your material unless you were paying them to publish it, and you were the only person distributing it.

If you are lacking in qualifications, you might be able to get support from someone who is qualified.

Scott
 
NobleMetalWorks said:
First, your link looks like it's dead.
What a first bug! I had changed the link to shorten it and missed it on the post. Now correct.

NobleMetalWorks said:
Also, I am curious, are these things you have put together yourself? Or is this something you purchased to re-sell? Or does it come from somewhere else?

If you put these together, I am further curious about the third offering. "Build Confidence, Influence People, Get the results you want" The reason why I am curious is because I have a background in psychology, and wouldn't even dare to attempt something like this for several reasons. If you wrote it, I am wondering what exactly your background is, and how you are qualified to write something of this nature, and sell it with any grantee that the information contained will work for anyone.

I'm not attacking your post. I believe that before anyone tests, or specially spends any money on your items they should somehow be qualified first. Motivational speakers always have a long list of qualifications they express when selling their products. A publishing company also would require credentials and qualifications before they would publish your material unless you were paying them to publish it, and you were the only person distributing it.

If you are lacking in qualifications, you might be able to get support from someone who is qualified.

Scott
OK, "qualifications" (though a full list would take quite awhile....)

- been in teaching/training for nearly 40 years (no, I've no "degree" in teaching, but many people have made a lot of money from what I've taught them - not sure how many "professors" can say that....)
- public speaking for several years (to audiences of 200+ at times - perhaps not "massive" rooms, but plenty)
- running my businesses (real estate was my primary market, though 'JUNK' has always been something I've done when times were slow with other stuff, certainly to a large extent over the last 15 years - BTW, every word of the two 'Junk' books is mine, with my photos, etc. - as well as all the YouTube videos....)
- trained thousands of people on various/sundry topics ('making money' and/or keeping it has been a primary thread most of my life)
- some things I have taught were designed by other people, with my own experiences intertwined to complete the 'product' (like when I became one of the 5 {or so} licensed facilitators for Robert Kiosaki's Cash Flow game [no exact count, the project was cancelled when he went with TimeWarner, so not many were licensed...], we taught in a 'seminar' what the game is actually teaching people.
- for 5 years I taught Asset Protection, along with tax reduction and estate planning to 75 or so students per week
- have been to 28 countries, over 1.5M FF miles (spent 12 years traveling and training people around the world)
- wrote/produced 14 books/products on real estate, business building and/or Asset Protection (got tired of the 'speaker network' and got back into JUNK full time about 5 years ago)

Well, that's a bit of my 'qualifications' - I trust it sheds a bit of different light on my background (I'm not much of one to go into that sort of stuff - 'self touting' is not one of my stronger personalities!)
 
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but none of the items on the menu worked on my PC running Windows XP Home edition. I could only see the menus. When I clicked an item on the menu, nothing happened; not for minutes. Sorry!
 
Auful said:
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but none of the items on the menu worked on my PC running Windows XP Home edition. I could only see the menus. When I clicked an item on the menu, nothing happened; not for minutes. Sorry!
That's why I want to test different configs, etc.

I tested it here on Windows 7 and XP Pro and works fine (though it does take a few seconds for the programs to decompress after clicking - a 'trade off' for keeping the files small enough to download reasonably fast - a challenge from Ecuador as it took me over an hour and a half to upload the package, but only 6 minutes to download).

I'll contact you via PM to go through one specific test.

Thanks to all that have signed up so far - this is why (just like with starting off on a new gold recovery route) you must test, test, test with different configurations and settings!
 
As Auful reported slow opening times, I wanted to post my test results. Opening times are one of the items on my 'hit list', though not much can be done since these are .pdf files (even opening them with Acrobat takes a lot of time).

All opening times from the menu should be 'relatively' quick - certainly within a short (i.e., 'reasonable') time.

"Speed Test" Data;

- tested on two PCs
PCa. Windows 7 Home Premium on i3-2350M CPU @ 2.3GHz, 4.00 GB RAM (laptop) (latest updates installed)
PCb. Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 P4, 2.26GHz, 224 MB RAM (desktop "old clunker") (not online in 4 years, no updates)

Results;
Install from .exe (starting from a 1G flash drive, which adds a slight delay) - time measured after clicking 'OK' on welcome screen
PCa - 5 seconds install, 6 seconds to menu screen
PCb - 10 seconds install, 18 seconds to menu screen

Time to 'splash' screen (5 products);
PCa - <5 seconds
PCb - <7 seconds

Unlocked Product opening ('Build Confidence' book);
PCa - 15 seconds to readable (display changes to Windows 7 basic, opens pdf, etc. showing 'progress')
PCb - within 8 seconds, screen flashes, etc. (obvious opening), 30 seconds to readable book (due to limited memory)

Your times may vary slightly, however, 'latest tech' and 'clunker' are within acceptable range of each other.

Any other results, post here if you like, or PM/email me.
 
thats a long time. i downloaded it, scanned it and its just another beta sitting on my desktop.

new software is one of my favorite things. will let you know if i ever run it

one question is.......

am i going to be but on a mass mailing list ?
sold on a cd on ebay ?? lol

just joking, i signed up with my spam email account
 
necromancer said:
thats a long time. i downloaded it, scanned it and its just another beta sitting on my desktop.

new software is one of my favorite things. will let you know if i ever run it
great way to learn - by 'osmosis'........ :roll:

necromancer said:
one question is.......

am i going to be but on a mass mailing list ?
sold on a cd on ebay ?? lol

just joking, i signed up with my spam email account
hadn't thought of the 'cd on ebay' thing - hey, a new product! :lol:

the 'list' stays secure.

Our policy on signups -
"We NEVER sell, trade or otherwise release your information - PERIOD!"
This statement survives company sale.

I might contact you later on another project I'm working on, or some follow-up messages about the package ('latest versions' and such), but no 'mass mailing' stuff. At this time, the signups are only used in the database to tie in with what free product you request.

I think I hate spam as much, if not more, than anyone and though 'mass mailing' has it's place, the only time I do those is when I have double-opt-in permission to. (and even "signed up with my spam account" doesn't count as permission!)
 
Do you need a special program to run it? windows says I need to know what program I want to use first. I don't have the windows suit but I do have Open Office.

I have windows vista. The download took awhile and windows doesn't like the download it gives me a "discard now" warning.

Hope this is helpful

Eric
 
etack said:
Do you need a special program to run it? windows says I need to know what program I want to use first. I don't have the windows suit but I do have Open Office.

I have windows vista. The download took awhile and windows doesn't like the download it gives me a "discard now" warning.

Hope this is helpful

Eric
You don't need any special program, this downloads as a .exe (self installing, self executing) file. That is both a blessing - and a curse.... as most browsers (or maybe it is Microsoft itself, I don't know) don't like .exe files, so they say "this is not a normal download file, discard?" or something. (I have the option of making it into a .zip file - the download is no challenge, but unless you have a program to deal with it, there are issues with that, too - every 'good' method of transfer has been eaten up by the hackers and makes it hard for an honest guy to do anything!)

You should click on the 'OK to save' button (different for different browsers - in chrome it is a drop-down box next to the 'discard' message) and continue on. (as necromancer said, he scanned it and didn't find anything - it is safe to get this file)

As for windows saying you need to know what program to use first, please give me more info - I'm not familiar with that for this type program.= (when do you get it, what were you doing at the time, etc.)

The download should take about 2 minutes (just got one report that it took 1 min and 45 sec) - for me here it takes 5-6 minutes, but that is in Ecuador!
 
MMFJ said:
As for windows saying you need to know what program to use first, please give me more info - I'm not familiar with that for this type program.= (when do you get it, what were you doing at the time, etc.)

Just reading the forum and clicking on the menu that came up.I get the menus but nothing else. just the error that windows needs my permission to search the internet to find a program to read this file.

Eric
 
RESOLVED!

At least, everything seems to point to the same thing, and it is a simple 'solution' to get the menu working, etc.

Same resolution on XP and Vista.

Not sure of the permanent 'fix', but for those interested in this offer, if you have the same problem with opening the products (seems everyone is installing it and opening the menu just fine), you need to run the Computers2Gold.exe program by itself, then the menu runs fine.

To run it, you can a(search your computer for that filename), b(use Explorer to go to c://Making Money From JUNK Package and click on it from there), c(run c://Making Money From JUNK Package/Computers2Gold.exe from a command prompt)

Please check with your local computer helper to find the best option for you - they all end up with the same result.

Once you run that program, you will see the screen that you need a Serial Number to open the program. You can then select 'End' and go back to the menu program (follow the instructions you get with the download and emails).

If that doesn't resolve the issue, please let me know. It has resolved it 100% for three people that have had it.

I will work on a permanent solution.

Thanks again to all that are participating - it is identifying just what I needed to move forward with this project!
 
Thanks for answering my questions and posting your qualifications.

When posting any professional documentation, papers, books etc it's never considered crass or inappropriate to post your qualifications. Contrary, it's required in most professional disciplines to do so. It adds validity to your product if you express what expertise you might have. Also, there are many people out in the world selling all kinds of instructional, how to, get rich etc schemes with nothing to back up what they say, you don't want to be grouped up with that lot, you wouldn't sell anything.

Like the old saying goes, you make your customers happy and they will tell their friends, you make them unhappy and they will tell everyone.

On a side note, if these are in fact e-books and not installing other software, why are they in .exe format? Why not just simply put them in protected .pdf format so they cannot be altered? Ir if they are video, why not just create them as protected dvds or some other commonly used format you can encrypt? Personally, and this might just be me, but if I were to download a product that claimed it was an e-book, and then saw it was a .exe, I wouldn't trust it. If you are creating this as a .exe to protect your copyright, then there are other ways of doing so that will not cause your product to be interrogated by microsoft or virus scanning software.

Just my humble opinion.

Scott
 
NobleMetalWorks said:
On a side note, if these are in fact e-books and not installing other software, why are they in .exe format? Why not just simply put them in protected .pdf format so they cannot be altered? Ir if they are video, why not just create them as protected dvds or some other commonly used format you can encrypt? Personally, and this might just be me, but if I were to download a product that claimed it was an e-book, and then saw it was a .exe, I wouldn't trust it. If you are creating this as a .exe to protect your copyright, then there are other ways of doing so that will not cause your product to be interrogated by microsoft or virus scanning software.
I may be wrong, but the way I read the posts above, he's compressing the file so it can be downloaded faster. He made it a self-extracting zip file (.exe) for those who don't happen to have a program to decompress zip or other compressed format files. I could be wrong.

Dave
 
FrugalRefiner said:
I may be wrong, but the way I read the posts above, he's compressing the file so it can be downloaded faster. He made it a self-extracting zip file (.exe) for those who don't happen to have a program to decompress zip or other compressed format files. I could be wrong.

Dave
Or, you could be right...... - thanks for reading the thread.

Of course, I am certainly open to 'better' methods from 'qualified' people - of which I have yet to see that compare anything to mentors I have paid and spent hundreds of hours working directly with (which include a long list of highly successful speakers, trainers and product development teams such as John Childers (with whom I have spent many hours in several weekly training sessions) and his sons JJ and Tracy (both of which have given me their personal cell phone numbers), Loral Langemeir (who I've known since before her son was born)........ - is it really "necessary" to state the years of training and coaching, product research and development I've both been through as well as given?

I really see no reason nor need to justify myself, my products nor my background to anyone - on this board or anywhere else. My work stands on its own.

However, to address (for the last time) a bit more of that, for those that are interested enough to learn and try my products and teaching, great rewards have been seen (one man came to one of my weekend-long seminars, was there about an hour and left in a rush. I saw him shortly thereafter and asked what I said that made him leave so quickly - he told my he was only upset at himself for not knowing it before, and had rushed out to go work a real estate deal like I just taught him. He wound up doing somewhere in the neighborhood of a $21M deal and creating a $3m write-off on his taxes (he never told me what the details were - and I never asked - I don't make it my business to pry into other's reasons, methods or profits of running their business, I was just happy for his success).

Then, there was a lady who recently was watching my YouTube videos and called me to thank me personally because the information she picked up from one video had just made her over $200. She instantly bought both my books, saying that even if she learned nothing more from them, she still was money ahead already (though she certainly got a lot more in the books than the videos). Can't argue with that logic! (in fact, it was her excitement in asking for more from me that I decided to create the menu package presented in this thread, which has several layers to it that are not in just a single product, and is why it needs testing on several computer variations)

At any rate, if, truly, there is a "need" for information on who I am, what I have done, who I've been associated with, etc., I would ask that you contact me privately, not in a thread opened as a request to assist in TESTING something (and willing to give value for those doing so). Any statements other than to discuss those tests detract from the process and should be presented in another location.

If anyone that has taken the time to read the offer presented and agreed to be a part of the testing has any questions on the test being performed (as per the detailed instructions), I am certainly open to discuss, publicly, privately or otherwise.
 
MMFJ said:
I really see no reason nor need to justify myself, my products nor my background to anyone - on this board or anywhere else. My work stands on its own.

Well I'm glad you decided to post your qualifications to be honest. Asking you about them, allowed you to express them, and now that they have been, people who are interested in your product have some foundation to base your qualifications on. That is a good thing by the way, not a bad thing.

Without stealing from your thread, I have published and been a public speaker on subjects that pertained to the industry I was working in, and my experience. I always gave my listeners a foundation to base what I spoke about, on. I was also a WAN (Wide Area Network) admin charged with the responsibility of 167 remote locations and can tell you definitively from my own experience that .exe files are always suspect. I expressed my questions and points based on my experience and knowledge, I was not attempting to sully your offering. I have now given you a foundation as to why I asked or expressed those thoughts. I hope you take what I have said in the spirit of how it was meant, and not take offense, that is not how I intended what I stated or asked.

Scott
 
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