making gold crystals
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Are you making reference to growing gold crystals by electrolysis?mbs said:
If so, the answer is no, not likely. Gold does not grow (from a gold chloride solution) in a crystalline form, but nodular. It might be possible to encourage it to do otherwise, but I am not privy to a method.
Harold
Not sure if this will help. Found it at "Ask A Scientist"
Is it possible to make pure
gold (crystal structure face centred cubic FCC)? I do not think it
is as I would have thought gold is a pure element and therefore it
cannot be copied by alloying etc.?
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Indeed you can make or grow gold crystals without too much trouble
assuming the proper supplies and training. The process of making the
crystal will often purify the gold. You can make a crystal from it by
either melting/annealing or by chemical deposition from solution. The
first method requires a supply of reasonable quality gold and a torch
(among other things). melting the end of the wire will cause the gold
to bead up and form a liquid ball. If the liquid ball is cooled slowly
(and in a uniform direction) then if has a reasonable chance to
crystallize in a single lattice. Often in practice you will get a twin or
triplet, but there are a few tricks you can use to improve your chances.
The surface may not show much or any direct faceting (even through a
microscope), but an x-ray diffractometer can quickly verify its
condition. During the heating and melting process many of the
impurities will be burned off by the torch and many of the others will
be forced to the surface during annealing. Repeated application of the
heating and cooling can be used to improve the purity.
Heating and holding the entire crystal at just below the bulk melting
point of gold will also improve the quality.
You can also create gold crystals just as you would salt or sugar
crystals, though you use particular acids instead of water. There are
two ways to do this, either by creating a super-saturated solution
directly by temperature differences or by changing the concentration
(evaporation). The gold then comes out of solution (slowly) and
crystallizes. Depending upon the conditions, you can many (thousands or
more) tiny crystals, or just a fewer but larger ones.
In our lab, we are very interested in the properties of gold and gold
crystals (and other metals). On several occasions we have actually made
our own crystals by the first method. Typically we can get them up to
around 1cm on side in raw form.
Most gold that you find around you is alloyed to some extent. Among
other things this is done to harden the gold into a useful state. It
will also be polycrystalline. Pure gold crystals are extremely soft and
very easy to destroy. They really are not much stronger than a warm
stick of butter(maybe that's not exactly true, but they are darn soft).
A fall of just a few centimeters is all that is needed to turn a gold
single crystal into a mashed up gold poly-crystal.
Michael S. Pierce
Materials Science Division
Argonne National Laboratory
Is it possible to make pure
gold (crystal structure face centred cubic FCC)? I do not think it
is as I would have thought gold is a pure element and therefore it
cannot be copied by alloying etc.?
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Indeed you can make or grow gold crystals without too much trouble
assuming the proper supplies and training. The process of making the
crystal will often purify the gold. You can make a crystal from it by
either melting/annealing or by chemical deposition from solution. The
first method requires a supply of reasonable quality gold and a torch
(among other things). melting the end of the wire will cause the gold
to bead up and form a liquid ball. If the liquid ball is cooled slowly
(and in a uniform direction) then if has a reasonable chance to
crystallize in a single lattice. Often in practice you will get a twin or
triplet, but there are a few tricks you can use to improve your chances.
The surface may not show much or any direct faceting (even through a
microscope), but an x-ray diffractometer can quickly verify its
condition. During the heating and melting process many of the
impurities will be burned off by the torch and many of the others will
be forced to the surface during annealing. Repeated application of the
heating and cooling can be used to improve the purity.
Heating and holding the entire crystal at just below the bulk melting
point of gold will also improve the quality.
You can also create gold crystals just as you would salt or sugar
crystals, though you use particular acids instead of water. There are
two ways to do this, either by creating a super-saturated solution
directly by temperature differences or by changing the concentration
(evaporation). The gold then comes out of solution (slowly) and
crystallizes. Depending upon the conditions, you can many (thousands or
more) tiny crystals, or just a fewer but larger ones.
In our lab, we are very interested in the properties of gold and gold
crystals (and other metals). On several occasions we have actually made
our own crystals by the first method. Typically we can get them up to
around 1cm on side in raw form.
Most gold that you find around you is alloyed to some extent. Among
other things this is done to harden the gold into a useful state. It
will also be polycrystalline. Pure gold crystals are extremely soft and
very easy to destroy. They really are not much stronger than a warm
stick of butter(maybe that's not exactly true, but they are darn soft).
A fall of just a few centimeters is all that is needed to turn a gold
single crystal into a mashed up gold poly-crystal.
Michael S. Pierce
Materials Science Division
Argonne National Laboratory
mmerkle
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Michael S. Pierce
I bought what I discovered was John G Kellogg's (fictitious name) undesclosed, Private Residence in Springfield, MI. Famous Assayer 1857 SS Central America sunken ship of gold. I've made some discoveries that I would like to share with a lab interested in the purification and electrolytic reproduction. While history shows only radioactive gold production in the 1930s, through proprietary secretes of 1832 royalty free limited monopoly mining rights from original patent property rights assignment..as the new assignee owner, I've learned they were producing oloctrolytic crystal 70 years before it was a word so to speak. Using basic principals of cementation to strip from ore and electroplate directly from cemented ore to diode..aka walls of the house having gold foil backed wall paper...copper roof..gold bearing refractory brick construction and ore stones on 2 stories and massive quartz crystals surrounding the first floor exterior. ..all still intact. Marked DC Wires and plumbing pipes are still run through the walls...I recognized what I didn't and don't completely understand. When I unearthed buried molds and quarter inch thick gold crystal chunks with matching wall paper patterns and large marked purified gold crystal concentrates and other electrolytic produced quartz stones is where my education began. I've got another ton of great examples I'd love to collaborate with a lab to have analyzed. I'm certain I've been left the instructions here but as a life time learner this late in life.. Alone I'll never understand what I don't know is common knowledge. With 1930 being a first public registration here and the gold confiscation act of 1932 not having an effect on powder gold and bullion gold being confiscated makes this a pretty profound historical finding. Religious and local sentiment has blocked ANY local help. [email protected]
Welcome to us.
This was some remarkable claims.
And as such needs some remarkable proof.
Do you have some pictures or similar to back your story?
