First batch good bad really dumb??

[Mikro]

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Hello from Ohio,
I have been following this forum and youtube videos for some time now
and thought it was time to take the plunge...I think i am drowning.
How far am i off here and where to go from here? Please be kind
Decided to just to 10kt for the initial run.
figured out to 63.56 grams gold 41% and 177.94 grams .925 silver
Used too short of a bucket for the inquarting and ended up with some cornflakes
and some globs. put it all in the flask.
Only had a 1000ml flask so I used about 450ml lab grade hcl on medium heat
and added about 3ml at a time lab grade nitric until each reaction simmered,
getting up to about 40ml nitric when i got a little anxious and it boiled over on me.
I quit at that time and let it all cool.
filtered off the solution. Filtered solution was kind of yellow, not real
pretty like sreetips batches.
I sprinkled smb in there and it all turned coal black and layers kind of danced/rolled around
in the solution. I let it settle overnight and it is this green color...Sprinkled a
little more smb until it quit reacting. Looks like a little gold/brown powder dropped out.
Green color is copper i think...10kt has a lot of copper i believe.
Question is the aqua regia still useable after using smb?


Ended up with some sludge and chunks in the filter. I do not have a vacuum filter so I did not
rinse this initial batch.
What to do now with the sludge? dry it, burn the filter and do another batch??
There are 2 ounces of gold in here somewhere by my calculations.

That looks good green Chem. Now put it through second refine.. when green first refine should be iron sulfate.. not smb. Leaves out doesnt collect as much palladium. Second refine, sulfuric and 29% peroxide. Looks like your on the right patch from what you show me . Good work. Im speaking from videos myself. Precipatates the silver.3rd refine just aqua regia.

That looks good im waiting now on about 7000ml green chem

 

[Mikro]

View attachment 49168View attachment 49169View attachment 49170First batch good bad really dumb??

Hello from Ohio,
I have been following this forum and youtube videos for some time now
and thought it was time to take the plunge...I think i am drowning.
How far am i off here and where to go from here? Please be kind
Decided to just to 10kt for the initial run.
figured out to 63.56 grams gold 41% and 177.94 grams .925 silver
Used too short of a bucket for the inquarting and ended up with some cornflakes
and some globs. put it all in the flask.
Only had a 1000ml flask so I used about 450ml lab grade hcl on medium heat
and added about 3ml at a time lab grade nitric until each reaction simmered,
getting up to about 40ml nitric when i got a little anxious and it boiled over on me.
I quit at that time and let it all cool.
filtered off the solution. Filtered solution was kind of yellow, not real
pretty like sreetips batches.
I sprinkled smb in there and it all turned coal black and layers kind of danced/rolled around
in the solution. I let it settle overnight and it is this green color...Sprinkled a
little more smb until it quit reacting. Looks like a little gold/brown powder dropped out.
Green color is copper i think...10kt has a lot of copper i believe.
Question is the aqua regia still useable after using smb?


Ended up with some sludge and chunks in the filter. I do not have a vacuum filter so I did not
rinse this initial batch.
What to do now with the sludge? dry it, burn the filter and do another batch??
There are 2 ounces of gold in here somewhere by my calculations.

Rinse iron sulfate with hni.. ammonium thyecyanate will turn red if still has iron in precipatant.

 

[BlackLabel]

Hi Mikro,

Your post makes absolutely no sense to me.

You're the only one talking about palladium - why?
What do you want to dissolve in sulfuric and 29% peroxide? Gold?
I don't understand your quotation:
"That looks good im waiting now on about 7000ml green chem" Nobody wrote this.

(Name edited)

 

[Mikro]

Thanks for your reply.
I do not have any stannous chloride so i am winging it.
The Carafe was only used with the smb. I have an actual flask that
I used with a catch basin. Stainless steel but still a catch.
The green fluid remaining. Am I correct that it is likely copper
thanks gary

Same thing goes iron sulfate once all golds precipatated out should show white foam atop solution when drop a spoon full.

 

[Mikro]

Hi Mirko,

Your post makes absolutely no sense to me.

You're the only one talking about palladium - why?
What do you want to dissolve in sulfuric and 29% peroxide? Gold?
I don't understand your quotation:
"That looks good im waiting now on about 7000ml green chem" Nobody wrote this.

You said your green is likely copper.. green is a sign of palladium but theres gold in it yes. If you add 20ml per gram of dmg maybe 3 grams to that and fibulate it though you should precipatate out some palladium salts on filter paper. 7 filters may make 7 grams if enough copper put into solution.

 

[Mikro]

You said your green is likely copper.. green is a sign of palladium but theres gold in it yes. If you add 20ml per gram of dmg maybe 3 grams to that and fibulate it though you should precipatate out some palladium salts on filter paper. 7 filters may make 7 grams if enough copper put into solution.

Though for your actual question. You need to refine that mix you got 2 more times atleast to have 24k gold

 

[Mikro]

Rinse iron sulfate with hni.. ammonium thyecyanate will turn red if still has iron in precipatant.

Hni im sorry hci(hydrochloric rinses no heat necissary but like up to 5 rinces atleast) but iron sulfate iron and gold leaves waste solution palladium if you save to figure rest palladium when use iron sulfate.

 

[BlackLabel]

Man, what's wrong with you?
Your replies aren't in any context to any other post.
Your posts are full of typos and senseless sentences:
precipatated
precipatant
ammonium thyecyanate
fibulate
"7 filters may make 7 grams if enough copper put into solution."

btw: It wasn't me, who wrote about a green liquid.

 

[Mikro]

View attachment 49168View attachment 49169View attachment 49170First batch good bad really dumb??

Hello from Ohio,
I have been following this forum and youtube videos for some time now
and thought it was time to take the plunge...I think i am drowning.
How far am i off here and where to go from here? Please be kind
Decided to just to 10kt for the initial run.
figured out to 63.56 grams gold 41% and 177.94 grams .925 silver
Used too short of a bucket for the inquarting and ended up with some cornflakes
and some globs. put it all in the flask.
Only had a 1000ml flask so I used about 450ml lab grade hcl on medium heat
and added about 3ml at a time lab grade nitric until each reaction simmered,
getting up to about 40ml nitric when i got a little anxious and it boiled over on me.
I quit at that time and let it all cool.
filtered off the solution. Filtered solution was kind of yellow, not real
pretty like sreetips batches.
I sprinkled smb in there and it all turned coal black and layers kind of danced/rolled around
in the solution. I let it settle overnight and it is this green color...Sprinkled a
little more smb until it quit reacting. Looks like a little gold/brown powder dropped out.
Green color is copper i think...10kt has a lot of copper i believe.
Question is the aqua regia still useable after using smb?


Ended up with some sludge and chunks in the filter. I do not have a vacuum filter so I did not
rinse this initial batch.
What to do now with the sludge? dry it, burn the filter and do another batch??
There are 2 ounces of gold in here somewhere by my calculations.

You got it all wrong? Maybe you dont i was just trying to explain green is not copper no more once desolved.. im sorry if im wrong i watched sreetips too. Guys a genius...

 

[VK3NHL]

You got it all wrong? Maybe you dont i was just trying to explain green is not copper no more once desolved.. im sorry if im wrong i watched sreetips too. Guys a genius...

Man, what's wrong with you?
Your replies aren't in any context to any other post.
Your posts are full of typos and senseless sentences:
precipatated
precipatant
ammonium thyecyanate
fibulate
"7 filters may make 7 grams if enough copper put into solution."

btw: It wasn't me, who wrote about a green liquid.

I thought it was just me having a ‘WTF’ moment

 

[Martijn]

You got it all wrong? Maybe you dont i was just trying to explain green is not copper no more once desolved.. im sorry if im wrong i watched sreetips too. Guys a genius...

Mikro. Pleae stop polluting this forum. You have made no introduction about yourself, giving us some context about what on earth you mean, and started to spew out a bunch of confusing info.

What is your goal here? Do you want to learn anything from us? You have something to share with us?

Do you know how this site works? Quotes can be misplaced in the wrong thread if youre not carefull.
Read before you post.

We help people here with known scientific facts. Science is exact. There is no room for typo's, facebook grammar or slang. That could be very dangerous.

To write instructions on how to perform steps or explain hydrometalurgy, use clear grammar and proper language, be precise and exact about naming things or don't even bother at all.
If a process is very complex and you can't explain it, refer to a thread that does.

This is your personal route to a ban imo.

Martijn.

P.s. i re-read my posts twice before posting. And test the links.

 

[Mikro]

I thought it was just me having a ‘WTF’ moment

Ammonium thiocyanate yes was a typo.. Sorry. Just is crucial you saying green is copper solution when copper solution is blue for cooking down making blue copper nitrate crystals or blue copper solution to precipatate silver chloride. Have your fun boyee!

 

[Mikro]

I thought it was just me having a ‘WTF’ moment

 

[Mikro]

Green is ammonia neutralized an was blue till added HCI i used too much HNO3(NITRIC) I'm working on taking the green and thats 7000ml and precipatate 2oz of gold and give copper solution blue one more whirl.my phone was dying but all copper went into solution and i thought it would be ready to make silver chloride blue turned green though. Ammonia is why 7000ml really an water cos neutralized atoms..

 

[Mikro]

Man, what's wrong with you?
Your replies aren't in any context to any other post.
Your posts are full of typos and senseless sentences:
precipatated
precipatant
ammonium thyecyanate
fibulate
"7 filters may make 7 grams if enough copper put into solution."

btw: It wasn't me, who wrote about a green liquid.

Ammonium thiocyanate
Precipitate

 

[butcher]

I have seen copper cations in green solutions, blue solutions, brown to black solutions, the color of the copper in the solution can be different colors depending on its oxidation state as well as the type of anionic compound salt it is composed of, even gases in the solution can change the colors, for example, excess nitric or NO2 decomposition can give different coloring to a solution containing copper in solution, other metal anions may also affect the colors...

Colors are somewhat helpful but do not tell the whole story. you cannot just use color alone to judge a book or what a chemical solution contains.

Mikro, I cannot understand anything you have been posting, None of your posts are making any sense.

 

[markscomp]

i do not process - this person is here to type stupid information so when someone searches for certain posts this info come up - i vote to ban the info

 

[markscomp]

not butcher,
but Micro with the photo and mask from who knows where

 

[Yggdrasil]

Copper Sulfate and Copper Nitrate is blue, copper as chlorides from AR and similar most often shows as green.
And since most, if not all our raw material involve copper, green is expected to be copper.
Very rarely there are there sufficient Pd to carry the colors over to the green hue by itself.
Some very few of us has experienced it, but most never do.

Now please Mikro do as you are told, read, study and get a structure into your postings.
To use your own words, you are fibulating over the threads, it is hard to understand which posts you are commenting.
Use proper language and correct chemical terms please.

 

[Mikro]

I have seen copper cations in green solutions, blue solutions, brown to black solutions, the color of the copper in the solution can be different colors depending on its oxidation state as well as the type of anionic compound salt it is composed of, even gases in the solution can change the colors, for example, excess nitric or NO2 decomposition can give different coloring to a solution containing copper in solution, other metal anions may also affect the colors...

Colors are somewhat helpful but do not tell the whole story. you cannot just use color alone to judge a book or what a chemical solution contains.

Mikro, I cannot understand anything you have been posting, None of your posts are making any sense.

Look man your palladium solution i said look like you got some good chemical Chem as chemical cheering you on an you grilled me firt off inquarting 10k with silver your pour off should been blue to gold color final refine .you did it completely wrong now im trashing you lmfao watch sreetips a couple more times. You getting mad these well known members are lame for you.