Gemsngold87
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Hi everyone,
Im writing this hoping that I did something wrong in my ignorance and lack of proper chemicals. Please dont eat me alive... I understand I did this all in haste and in doing so have probably contributed to the lack of gold at the end of the rainbow. I found sreetips on YouTube and spent a couple of days endlessly watching and learning from his procedures. At the very least I am somewhat familiar with the process. Not that it matters since it seems as if I was fooled and then got all excited and now I have nothing to show for it.
So here goes.
I have some material that I have crushed up and sifted through a mesh to a fine powder. I weighed out a 1000 grams of it. this is probably quite a bit to start with but as I thought that this was gold rich material, because I could see in it with a jewelers loop what appeared to be fine gold powder, I figured even if I didnt get it all into solution at least I would get some of it. My goal was to get as much gold as I could so that I could calculate a percentage in my material and hopefully use the gold that I got out of it to help pay for my future materials. I wasnt really sure if all of the material would even go into the solution so I just figured id learn as I went. The material is an unknown, I have spent countless hours trying to figure it out and still I am unsure.
I should mention that I dont have any stannous and so am doing this pretty much on faith that the process should put gold into solution and with sodium metabisulfite precipitate it out. At first I thought that I needed sulfamic acid but I noticed that sreetips never used any in his videos and so I decided to proceed with adding the muriatic and nitric to the material. After an hour or so of heating at about 140 F this is what it looked like.
I gave it a stir and noticed that the gold looking material disappeared. I was a little shocked at this wondering where it went but I let it sit for another half hour or until it looked like the process was done. No more yellow brown fumes and bubbles and it had pretty much slowed to a stop. For whatever reason, mostly me being greedy and excited and thinking that if that gold material was indeed gold, that I might just need a bit more of it. So rather than pour the solution and undesolved material into a different flask I added an another 1000 grams of material and more muriatic 500 mls and added nitric slowly till it started off gassing that brownish yellow gas.
I let it cook for about another hour checking on it frequently and then took this pic.
I let it do its thing until it stoped letting off those brown fumes and let it cool. I siphoned off the liquid and poured a smallish amount into a mason jar and added the stump out until it changed from a green color to an orange and wouldnt take anymore stump out. I wasnt aware that temp or ph should be taken before the stump out. Ive watched sreetips simply add ice and then add his SMB so I didnt think this would cause an issue. The solution was warm not hot or cold. At First there was a reaction to the stump out and it took about 3 table spoons before it wouldnt take anymore.
No gold precipitated out. In fact all that happened was a white film formed, sort of a fatty or waxy film on the surface after I let it set for a half hour or so outside. It's cold out, 35 degrees ish. Nothing in the bottom of my mason jar.
Did I simply have no gold in the material? Can anything be said about the color of the solution? and what is that then that looks like gold on top of the grey material? I dont know, im pretty bummed and to not have anything precipitate out... is just a wonder to me. I know stannous would help but it's just one of those items I was planning on ordering if I saw any gold in my end result same thing with the sulfamic acid and more nitric.
Thanks for your thoughts and help... please dont eat me alive for my ignorance I mostly wanted to see if this was worth pursuing.
Im writing this hoping that I did something wrong in my ignorance and lack of proper chemicals. Please dont eat me alive... I understand I did this all in haste and in doing so have probably contributed to the lack of gold at the end of the rainbow. I found sreetips on YouTube and spent a couple of days endlessly watching and learning from his procedures. At the very least I am somewhat familiar with the process. Not that it matters since it seems as if I was fooled and then got all excited and now I have nothing to show for it.
So here goes.
I have some material that I have crushed up and sifted through a mesh to a fine powder. I weighed out a 1000 grams of it. this is probably quite a bit to start with but as I thought that this was gold rich material, because I could see in it with a jewelers loop what appeared to be fine gold powder, I figured even if I didnt get it all into solution at least I would get some of it. My goal was to get as much gold as I could so that I could calculate a percentage in my material and hopefully use the gold that I got out of it to help pay for my future materials. I wasnt really sure if all of the material would even go into the solution so I just figured id learn as I went. The material is an unknown, I have spent countless hours trying to figure it out and still I am unsure.
I should mention that I dont have any stannous and so am doing this pretty much on faith that the process should put gold into solution and with sodium metabisulfite precipitate it out. At first I thought that I needed sulfamic acid but I noticed that sreetips never used any in his videos and so I decided to proceed with adding the muriatic and nitric to the material. After an hour or so of heating at about 140 F this is what it looked like.
I gave it a stir and noticed that the gold looking material disappeared. I was a little shocked at this wondering where it went but I let it sit for another half hour or until it looked like the process was done. No more yellow brown fumes and bubbles and it had pretty much slowed to a stop. For whatever reason, mostly me being greedy and excited and thinking that if that gold material was indeed gold, that I might just need a bit more of it. So rather than pour the solution and undesolved material into a different flask I added an another 1000 grams of material and more muriatic 500 mls and added nitric slowly till it started off gassing that brownish yellow gas.
I let it cook for about another hour checking on it frequently and then took this pic.
I let it do its thing until it stoped letting off those brown fumes and let it cool. I siphoned off the liquid and poured a smallish amount into a mason jar and added the stump out until it changed from a green color to an orange and wouldnt take anymore stump out. I wasnt aware that temp or ph should be taken before the stump out. Ive watched sreetips simply add ice and then add his SMB so I didnt think this would cause an issue. The solution was warm not hot or cold. At First there was a reaction to the stump out and it took about 3 table spoons before it wouldnt take anymore.
No gold precipitated out. In fact all that happened was a white film formed, sort of a fatty or waxy film on the surface after I let it set for a half hour or so outside. It's cold out, 35 degrees ish. Nothing in the bottom of my mason jar.
Did I simply have no gold in the material? Can anything be said about the color of the solution? and what is that then that looks like gold on top of the grey material? I dont know, im pretty bummed and to not have anything precipitate out... is just a wonder to me. I know stannous would help but it's just one of those items I was planning on ordering if I saw any gold in my end result same thing with the sulfamic acid and more nitric.
Thanks for your thoughts and help... please dont eat me alive for my ignorance I mostly wanted to see if this was worth pursuing.
