Hello everyone! sorry for making my first post a question, but here goes:
I've never been the biggest chemistry guy (physics was always more my thing) but gravity recovering only works when elements aren't bonded to anything else (noble elements are nice for this
but in order to do all the refining of all the stuff I want to refine I'll eventually have to use chemicals, and having done some binge watching and reading, i think I understand the basic concept of refining
in broad terms, is this correct? :
start off with pulverizing everything to a powder form (makes reactions happen faster, and allows the acids to reach everything)
then:
wash with water to devolve some basic elements that haven't already been put into a more complex chemical bond (Cs -> Na -> Ca)
* if you think the water did dissolve some stuff, you can recover it via electrolysis.
then:
dissolve a good portion of the powder with Hydrogen chloride, leaving behind the noble metals + copper.
*to recover the elements that have been dissolved you can:
precipitate out Pb by adding Sn
precipitate out Sn by adding Ni
precipitate out Ni by adding Co
precipitate out Co by adding Cd
precipitate out Cd by adding Fe
precipitate out Fe by adding Cr
precipitate out Cr by adding Zn
precipitate out Zn by adding Mn
precipitate out Mn by adding Al
precipitate out Al by adding Mg
Mg (or Al) you can remove via electrolysis, leaving you with water/weak acid (I assume a lot of hydrogen will be lost amongst all the reactions.
and of course, you can skip steps if your confident some elements are not present. (i.e. you can precipitate out Ni by throwing in some Al)
now you're left with the more noble metals, which you would then devolve in something like sulfuric acid, or possibly Aqua regia if they're being super noble.
if you have any metal left after that, it should be Ti (+ ceramics of course)
*to recover the elements that have been dissolved you can:
precipitate out Au by adding Pt
^ ** there are better ways of precipitating these out without using other super expensive metals, but that's beyond what I want you to double check.
precipitate out Pt by adding Ag
precipitate out Ag by adding Hg
^ ** I believe Ag (silver) can also be extracted via electrolysis, unless I'm mistaken.
precipitate out Hg by adding W
precipitate out W by adding Cu
precipitate out Cu by adding Bi
precipitate out Bi by adding Sb
and then just follow the list above, until your back to Mg
also, again, the same rule applies that you can skip precipitating out at every step, and just go forward a few elements.
is my understanding correct? or am I way off?
I've never been the biggest chemistry guy (physics was always more my thing) but gravity recovering only works when elements aren't bonded to anything else (noble elements are nice for this
but in order to do all the refining of all the stuff I want to refine I'll eventually have to use chemicals, and having done some binge watching and reading, i think I understand the basic concept of refining
in broad terms, is this correct? :
start off with pulverizing everything to a powder form (makes reactions happen faster, and allows the acids to reach everything)
then:
wash with water to devolve some basic elements that haven't already been put into a more complex chemical bond (Cs -> Na -> Ca)
* if you think the water did dissolve some stuff, you can recover it via electrolysis.
then:
dissolve a good portion of the powder with Hydrogen chloride, leaving behind the noble metals + copper.
*to recover the elements that have been dissolved you can:
precipitate out Pb by adding Sn
precipitate out Sn by adding Ni
precipitate out Ni by adding Co
precipitate out Co by adding Cd
precipitate out Cd by adding Fe
precipitate out Fe by adding Cr
precipitate out Cr by adding Zn
precipitate out Zn by adding Mn
precipitate out Mn by adding Al
precipitate out Al by adding Mg
Mg (or Al) you can remove via electrolysis, leaving you with water/weak acid (I assume a lot of hydrogen will be lost amongst all the reactions.
and of course, you can skip steps if your confident some elements are not present. (i.e. you can precipitate out Ni by throwing in some Al)
now you're left with the more noble metals, which you would then devolve in something like sulfuric acid, or possibly Aqua regia if they're being super noble.
if you have any metal left after that, it should be Ti (+ ceramics of course)
*to recover the elements that have been dissolved you can:
precipitate out Au by adding Pt
^ ** there are better ways of precipitating these out without using other super expensive metals, but that's beyond what I want you to double check.
precipitate out Pt by adding Ag
precipitate out Ag by adding Hg
^ ** I believe Ag (silver) can also be extracted via electrolysis, unless I'm mistaken.
precipitate out Hg by adding W
precipitate out W by adding Cu
precipitate out Cu by adding Bi
precipitate out Bi by adding Sb
and then just follow the list above, until your back to Mg
also, again, the same rule applies that you can skip precipitating out at every step, and just go forward a few elements.
is my understanding correct? or am I way off?