Thanks again will speak to the main cellphone guy,p.s i have actually a solid plan to process these phones my question wasnt meant to sound newbie i asked the question just to hear what the most experienced guys here would say how they would best go ahead with phones if they had them like i do.e.g i would use nitric acid to get rid of base metals then go for the silver and gold and then the pgm according to the best means i have seen and used already,so just bouncing the question off u guys again to see what you would do,az i value everyones comment here very much since i became a member almost two years ago,regards,Yazeed