CJ Environmental in Sharon, MA - any feedback/suggestions?

[jaydisco]

I am new to the forum, and to the e-waste recovery game in general. I have a basement computer repair business and have been stacking useless components since I moved to this house six years ago. It is time to purge my horde and I have been looking for the best route.

I have looked at boardsort & thrifty, but I am concerned about shipping costs. I solicited buyers through a craigslist post and replies are from middle-men (offers for motherboards at 1.00/lb...cpu's at 3.00). Ebay might be an option - let the buyer pay shipping.

I am going to contact CJ tomorrow and get a quote to buy the lot, and also discuss having them refine it. So, a couple of questions:

1. Are there any other refiners / buyers within 2hrs from Boston that I should be talking to?

2. Has anyone dealt with CJ Environmental?

I am somewhere between 4-500lbs or so mostly pc & laptop scrap, with another 100+ lbs of cell phones that I still need to test follwing shortly. I am in the process of stripping and separating everything and it will be a few days before I have a breakdown on how much of each component. Oh, and a great big THANK-YOU to all the contributors whose threads have inspired me. I was almost the guy one of you would be bragging about "scoring" a truckload of free scrap from.

 

[Claudie]

For motherboards, if you send them to boartsort.com in less than 70 pound boxes, you can send them parcel post for around $35.00. That is my experience anyway. Shipping may be different where you are. Roughly it figures out to around 50 to 60 cents per pound for shipping.

 

[Palladium]

Ocean is your man on cell phones.

http://goldrefiningforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=8151&hilit=cell+phone

 

[jaydisco]

Claudie: That's awesome! I PM'd Chris for advice on how to ge the stuff to him as his prices are far better than I have found locally...even after paying the post offce their vig.

Palladium: Will def. checkout Ocean, thanks!

It looks like CJ Environmental are the cashforgold.com people...along with cashforsilver.com, cashfordentalscrap.com, cashforeclectronicscrapusa.com, etc. I read some things about them on these boards. I may take a trip to them with a small lot to see what they offer in person.

 

[Claudie]

I have been told that they (Cash For Gold) pay approximately 10 cents per pound for everything. I sent them some junk brown board and that's what I was paid, so maybe there is something to that. I would stay away from them if I had decent boards to sell. Boardsort.com is who I deal with.

 

[darshevo]

For what Chris pays compared to most locals the shipping isn't that bad. If you are indeed in the 500lb range you could fill most of a gaylord. If you don't have a forklift on site put it together in the back of your truck to fill it up. Call frieghtquote to get a decent deal on shipping. I am paying about .60/lb for shipping and sending it well over 1000 miles to get it to him

 

[Claudie]

I have an account at freightquote but I thought the prices were a tad high. Does anyone know of better way? $.60 is as much or more than parcel post through the US post office.

 

[darshevo]

Since you are only hundreds of miles from Chris instead of 1000's you might look into one of those LTL guys that runs around with a dually dodge and a flatbed gooseneck trailer. I have one locally that will do gaylords to Seattle for me at 100$ a box if he has a spare space on the trailer. Since they aren't heavy they are usually pretty easy to get onto a load going that way already.

 

[jimdoc]

If you are not that far away from anyplace such as Boardsort, you could inquire about a pickup.
The worse they could say is no, but you may get an OK if you have enough.

Jim

 

[escrap]

Claudie,

What kind of weight to you usually ship. Are you talking gaylords or not, do you have a dock or forklift. My shipper is generally pretty good on prices if you have some weight.

 

[Claudie]

I haven't been dealing with a lot of weigh just yet. I do have a way of loading pallets with a skid loader. The heavy loads, usually Copper, Tin, Aluminum, and electric motors, I sell locally. I am hoping to move to bigger loads of motherboards and the like, in the near future.

 

[celticsfan]

Hi All,
I just finished my first transaction with CJEnvironmental /CashforGold in Sharon Mass. When you fill out the online form they immediatly send a fedex prepaid label for your package(s). I shipped 55 lbs of PC motherboards that had the memory sticks removed as well as the CPU and any extraneous metal and heat sinks. I thought this would maximize the value of my shipment.
Today I received my check for a total of $9.00. I was disapointed because the price list that they sent me listed a range of prices for motherboards of between $1.00 and $3.50 per lb. Therefore I expected at least $55.00 minus the cost of shipping.
I called their office and questioned them about the weight thinking perhaps the had not included one or two of the three boxes I had shipped. No, they had received all three packages but they don't go by the weight of material you send them. I was told they go by the weight of the PMs' in the material to arrive at their payout number.
Todays gold price is about $1665.00 per ounce and if you divide that by 480 grains in an ounce then a grain is worth $3.47 today. So what they are telling me is that all the PMs' in my 55 lbs of boards equal the equivilent of 2.6 grains of gold and nothin else of value. I find that hard to accept so I do not think I will do any further business with this company. Some things you can only learn by doing and some things you can learn from others. I hope this information will be useful to my fellow forum members.
John

 

[Ocean]

Brutal!

 

[Claudie]

Hi All,
I just finished my first transaction with CJEnvironmental /CashforGold in Sharon Mass. When you fill out the online form they immediatly send a fedex prepaid label for your package(s). I shipped 55 lbs of PC motherboards that had the memory sticks removed as well as the CPU and any extraneous metal and heat sinks. I thought this would maximize the value of my shipment.
Today I received my check for a total of $9.00. I was disapointed because the price list that they sent me listed a range of prices for motherboards of between $1.00 and $3.50 per lb. Therefore I expected at least $55.00 minus the cost of shipping.
I called their office and questioned them about the weight thinking perhaps the had not included one or two of the three boxes I had shipped. No, they had received all three packages but they don't go by the weight of material you send them. I was told they go by the weight of the PMs' in the material to arrive at their payout number.
Todays gold price is about $1665.00 per ounce and if you divide that by 480 grains in an ounce then a grain is worth $3.47 today. So what they are telling me is that all the PMs' in my 55 lbs of boards equal the equivilent of 2.6 grains of gold and nothin else of value. I find that hard to accept so I do not think I will do any further business with this company. Some things you can only learn by doing and some things you can learn from others. I hope this information will be useful to my fellow forum members.
John

I only shipped them junk stuff that I couldn't get rid of anywhere else. Brown board with the goodies removed. I think I got more than you did and you had a lot better quality boards. I wouldn't trust any company with "cash for gold" in the name or description, but that's just my opinion.... :|

 

[Claudie]

I e-mailed CJ Enviromental today and asked how they come up with their payout. They wrote me back and said "You are compensated 82% of the value for the precious metals in the electronic scrap." I have sent them 2 boxes of stripped low grade brown boards in the past and averaged about 10 cents a pound for them. I sent them another box of the same stuff last week and they told me my check is in the mail. I e-mailed them back and asked about the other metals present, like Copper and Aluminum, but they haven't replied yet. :|

 

[Claudie]

CJ Environmental emailed me back to say that they don't purchase Copper, Aluminum, or any other non precious metals. Hmm, well anyway, I received my check from them! 40 pounds of low grade brown board with most all of the Copper, Aluminum, and any ICs removed. $7.70 for 40 pounds after shipping.

 

[19wizard79]

Being close to CJ in shraron, I thought I would investigate their payouts so I sent a request for a quote. All I will say is STAY AWAY! One would be much more profitable contacting someone one the GRF to recover and refine. All said and done they will pay $5.50 per gram for 58.5%(14k) gold!

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

even after paying the post offce their vig.

That sentence begs the questions:

What line of work are you in?

Are you connected or ???

Are you Italian/Sicilian?

I haven't heard anyone use the word "vig" since I lived in NY. I was shocked to see it used on this forum in just general conversation. I was actually shocked.

 

[glondor]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigorish


I use the term sometimes where it seems applicable. Post office applies, Think of how they operate. If you actually want a package delivered you have to pay vig on top of the regular rate. Or take your chances. They have several levels of vig. The more you pay, the higher the odds of your package getting to where it is supposed to go.

 

[Anonymous]

After reading the word gaylord here many times now on the forum, I finally Googled it and now I know what it means.

Not understanding just one word of a sentence, paragraph or anything you read, it can cause you to not fully understand what is talked about. I'm glad I Google and Wiki terms all the time, and then I save them to a KeyNote file so I will always be able to refer back to them whenever I need to instantly.

I thank the forum again for such knowledge that's being instilled in me for learning about the precious metals, recovery process, refining and everything else pertaining to this field.

It's true indeed that you learn something new everyday.

Kevin