Ckbouda's thread.

[galenrog]

Wise.im learning and im practicing it doesn't matter the outcome its the procedure

The procedure determines the outcome.

Read Hoke. Read it again. On the third time through, write notes and questions. Bring questions here. Pay especially close attention to notes and edits made by Dave (FrugalRefiner).

Perform the acquaintance experiments she presents. Each in sequence shown. Several times, if necessary, to achieve repeatable results.

Do this, and you will have a rudimentary understanding of both recovery and refining.

Still time for more coffee.

 

[Yggdrasil]

So i can put it inside to oxidize the basic metals and after its reduced burn the rest to metal again slightly reduced?will this help a little?

You need to study more.
As I said even 30% Peroxide will not do anything.
So I suggest you start reading up on smelting and fluxes.
Maybe even bubbling air through the smelt.
This wiil surely remove most of the base metals.
Next depending on the amount of metals remaining you can scorify it with Lead and cupel it after.

 

[Martijn]

Since i got so much waste metals inside...do i need to put also lead in the beginning?or the waste metal inside is good to start with?

I would look into a copper sulfate aka copper refining cell. Leaving the values in the anode bag, you can refine that a lot easier.

 

[Ckbouda]

I would look into a copper sulfate aka copper refining cell. Leaving the values in the anode bag, you can refine that a lot easier.

Tnxs

 

[Martijn]

Tnxs

https://goldrefiningforum.com/threads/electrolytic-copper-refining-cell.24397/

 

[Ckbouda]

Happy holidays to the forum.im trying to refine metals with hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide.the problem is that i got hydrochloric acid 14 vol cannot find stronger.i started already doing this the reaction is happening slow but can it do the trick to get everything in solution?

 

[Ckbouda]

 

[Ckbouda]

If i leave this like this upon the coffee machine plate my hcl acid inside by decanting the vol of it raises higher?its cold outside

 

[Yggdrasil]

Happy holidays to the forum.im trying to refine metals with hydrochloric acid and hydrogen peroxide.the problem is that i got hydrochloric acid 14 vol cannot find stronger.i started already doing this the reaction is happening slow but can it do the trick to get everything in solution?

Peroxide at that concentration will not work.
At least 20% (Some 40Vol or so) or higher is recommended.

Better use Pool Chlorine and HCl.
Are you dissolving the whole bar you made?
That will cost far more than the value of the Gold I believe.

 

[Ckbouda]

Peroxide at that concentration will not work.
At least 20% (Some 40Vol or so) or higher is recommended.

Better use Pool Chlorine and HCl.
Are you dissolving the whole bar you made?
That will cost far more than the value of the Gold I believe.

No small scale started with 3g jewelry staff scrap

 

[Yggdrasil]

No small scale started with 3g jewelry staff scrap

Karat scrap?

 

[Ckbouda]

No small scale started with 3g jewelry staff scrap

Have of it i got it solution but going very slow

 

[Yggdrasil]

Have of it i got it solution but going very slow

Please answer.
Is it karat scrap!

 

[Yggdrasil]

Have of it i got it solution but going very slow

Karat scrap can't be disdolved directly in AR or even less in the HCl/Peroxide or Chloride solutions.
It needs to be inquarted to 6 karat and then parted in Nitric.
Then it can be dissolved and refined.

 

[Ckbouda]

Please answer.
Is it karat scrap!

Yes

 

[Ckbouda]

Karat scrap can't be disdolved directly in AR or even less in the HCl/Peroxide or Chloride solutions.
It needs to be inquarted to 6 karat and then parted in Nitric.
Then it can be dissolved and refined.

Ok got that i will stop

 

[Ckbouda]

Ok got that i will stop

I will keep the left over solid from that

 

[Ckbouda]

I will keep the left over solid from that

Its

I will keep the left over solid from that

Its hard to do stuff when you miss the elements...need stronger acid txs

 

[Yggdrasil]

Its

Its hard to do stuff when you miss the elements...need stronger acid txs

For karat you really need Nitric.
One can get by with Nitrates and Sulfuric as it will form poor mans Nitric.

 

[Ckbouda]

For karat you really need Nitric.
One can get by with Nitrates and Sulfuric as it will form poor mans Nitric.

Tnxs man for all your tips.i appreciate