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justme2

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I have been around the forum for a while reading all I can, have read hokes book twice but I,m old and my scull gets thicker with age. Been an E waste broker for about 2 years. Known and well received as olddude on the SMF.

I have searched for this answer for the better part of 3 weeks and can't find the answer,so, guess I will just take my chances and ask.

I want to experiment with hi value e scrap primarily fingers. would a coffee pot warmer have enough heat to aid this process.

sorry looks like I posted this on the wrong thread:
 
Fingers are fairly easy to remove the foils in a copper II chloride leach. a smaller 1 gallon plastic bucket that will fit in a three gallon bucket works well, drilling many holes in the 1 gallons buckets bottom to act as a strainer, a few holes at one of the bottom edges corner help to drain the last bit.

The foils sit in the 1 gal. bucket and it is lowered into the three gallon bucket full of the copper II chloride leach, this way it can easily checked on, and be stirred by lifting the inner bucket and lowering it (normally fairly slowly so as not to push solution out of the larger bucket), the small bucket act as a strainer holding the pieces of fiberglass, and lets the small foils fall through the strainer holes to the bottom of the larger bucket making collecting the foils easier.

The copper II chloride leach will work in cooler weather but its action does slow down, it cold outdoors it may seem to stop reacting. Here you may choose to have a little heat, you really do not need too much heat, and there are several ways you can provide some heat, a box or large cabinet with a door and a light bulb inside where you can sit your bucket inside. this could be made or use something you may already have like an old refrigerator...
Blanket bucket heaters work well these are flexible blankets that wrap around the bucket, you can get these with thermostat control, another option I have used (it works but is not the best is a fish tank heater), A crock pot on low heat (but they are almost too hot even on low), the process is slow even with warming, so a coffee pot on a hot plate would not be my choice, but you could use it.
You do not want to get the solution hot, just warm, about normal room temperature, or as hot as a warm sunny day is just fine.
 
Always remove any "metal" handles on any buckets you use with or around acids, especially HCl, as they quickly corrode and fail at the wrong time, possibly splashing acid on you :shock:
 
thanks: been doing my home work diligently (reading) the last few days. your tips save much time in the trial and error process.

I started a small 100 gram trial 4 days ago using fingers.

300 ml hcl+100ml peroxide outside temp was 60-40 little progress was made first day but had nice green. added heat that night, but now know better.

day 3: dark green but few flakes, so, at 10:30 am added 100 ml hcl.

day 5: About 1/3 of the fingers have flaked off. continued study and have ordered 2 air pumps.

yesterday placed 1/4 lb memory hcl/water 50/50 mix in an attempt to depopulate. no response at this point. Thanks for the help and bless this forum. olddude.
 
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