Company looking for Gold Refinery

[solar_plasma]

I would vote for ban but it is really funny to watch them how they are trying.

I enjoy it each single time!

David, there was some 24$ drop in price earlier on today. Did you drop few tons of your gold on market? Just asking as if it was you, can you kindly tell us when you will do it next time again so we can make few bucks?
Thanks in advance.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: *rolling on the floor laughing*

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

I wasn't going to post on this thread, I kind of wanted to see where it was going to go.

Harold, as usual, you have put things into perspective in a way that leaves little room for the OP to maneuver. I don't believe they understand what it is they seem to be proposing.

To the OP, David:

I was very active in the international trade arena for over 10 years and have conducted international trade deals for over 20.

When you are attempting to broker a deal, you need to understand the market better than what you have displayed here in this thread. Because it's painfully obvious that you are just a broker, and probably in a long line of brokers all passing along the same exact deal, which is not real. Let me be clear on this point, the transaction you are offering is not real. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I have heard about this exact type of gold deal, and always being offered by a broker, not an actual mining company.

Your company in fact has nothing to do with any mining anywhere in the world, and I state that with confidence backed by my own international trade experience. You are a broker, nothing more, and not even a very good broker as far as brokers are concerned. You are attempting to present yourself as being a mining company, which is also not true. Your not even a trade company. Allow me to bring your attention to this post, on this website:

http://www.49ers.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=07_9&wr_id=38

I would like to point out the name of the company offering this particular trade deal.

I can also tell you that you were never able to transact that particular deal, and I can tell you why, the procedures are incorrect, no bank would conduct the trade deal based on those procedures. Number 1 on your procedures list states that buyer does this, and seller does that. Those documents are NEVER, not EVER transferred from buyer to seller or seller to buyer, they are sent bank to bank only, and even at that, only between one of the top 10 world trade banks. I could continue but there really is no point. Best to just state the obvious, you are a broker operating as the business stated in your original post, and nothing more than that.

By the way, are you based out of Tennessee?

Anyway, before you go off half cocked and attempt to transact an international trade deal of any nature, you should understand the market, and how these types of deals are transacted. And if you want to continue on this particular forum, I would suggest that you go out of your way to be honest in your next post, and state exactly what it is you are attempting to do, and be honest about your business. If not, I have a sneaky suspicion that you will end up getting banned.

And tell the broker who is pretending to be the sellers mandate, or next to the seller, or next to the person next to the seller, that the deal is fake, that you know it's fake, and if they want to prove it's real to put you in direct contact with the company making the offer. Sign an NCNDA and a Brokers Agreement to get them out of the way, and the next broker, and every other broker in the long chain of brokers you don't seem to realize you are part of. And I can almost promise you that sooner or later you will end up right back in the lap of one of the brokers offering this same exact deal. Or if not, the end of the line will be some office in some West African country spitting out fake transactions like this so that they can get you to give them a copy of a LOC, so they can then use that information to scam someone else out of something.

If you were not so blatantly lying about who you are, or who your company is suppose to be, I might feel sorry for you. But the fact you are lying really bothers me.

Scott

 

[Harold_V]

Ok, let me make things clear cause I see people got confused by the unusual quantity of gold.

1. Our company is looking for refineries who could perform the assay and then buy gold from us. We want to work directly with a refinery who could buy gold from us on a regular basis.
2. We have on the average 1000 kg/mo. But we can start as low as 1kg.
3 NO online payments, or any other payments in advance. Everything is done the legal way:

a) We meet and sign the contract
b) Our company delivers the gold to your nearest airport
c) You perform the assay (our representative will be present at the weighing and assaying of the gold)
d) You buy the gold and make the payment.

In other words, no, I have nothing to offer that lends credence to what I've been talking about. Just a repeat of the same old lament.

Admin: If I'm searching in the wrong place, and there are no people who can handle the amount I'm talking about, than please delete my account.

Implying that the bumbling morons on this board are way out of my (our?) league, so I'd like to pick up my marbles and go play with someone who isn't.
When caught with your pants down, go on the offensive, eh? That's your strategy?

This is your last opportunity to save your presence on this forum. Provide the necessary evidence that this isn't a scam and I'll move on. If nothing is forthcoming, you're history.

Why on earth would ANYONE go hunting for a buyer when there's already an established network that deals with gold? (I already mentioned Johnson Matthey).

Harold

 

[galenrog]

Thank you, Scott, for your post. Most of us home gamers do not understand much on the trading side of things, but still smell a rat when one comes along. Myself, I do a bit of placer mining, a bit of electronic recovery, and a bit of a lot of things.

The OP may believe he has an honest deal, or he may be part of the scam. In either case, this is something that nearly every forum member will stay far away from, save the sarcastic humor and the vehement warnings to others.

Again, thanks Scott!

Harold, your posts are always welcome to us home gamers. Bringing sanity back to the conversation is always a good thing, and nobody does it better on this forum than you. As I wrote above, I do not know if Dave is an honest man being led astray, or a dishonest man trying to fleece a sucker. Either way, the deal is bad.

Thank again for the sanity.

Galen

 

[NobleMetalWorks]

Thank you, Scott, for your post. Most of us home gamers do not understand much on the trading side of things, but still smell a rat when one comes along. Myself, I do a bit of placer mining, a bit of electronic recovery, and a bit of a lot of things.

The OP may believe he has an honest deal, or he may be part of the scam. In either case, this is something that nearly every forum member will stay far away from, save the sarcastic humor and the vehement warnings to others.

Again, thanks Scott!

Harold, your posts are always welcome to us home gamers. Bringing sanity back to the conversation is always a good thing, and nobody does it better on this forum than you. As I wrote above, I do not know if Dave is an honest man being led astray, or a dishonest man trying to fleece a sucker. Either way, the deal is bad.

Thank again for the sanity.

Galen

Well thanks for the thanks, but I get the feeling most of the members of the forum knew this was a bogus deal, even if the poster didn't. It rubbed me the wrong way when I read how he responded to people in his flippant and sarcastic way, specially when it's obvious to me that he is misrepresenting himself in his original post and knows full well exactly what it is he is doing.

Very few people will stand up and be honest about what they were attempting to do. A lot of brokers I have met over the years get so caught up in pretending to be some large corporation conducting business on a global scale, that they get offended when called out on their little fantasy they have created. It should be self evident that this type of behavior would not be accepted on this forum, specially to anyone that has spent any time reading any of the posts.

It's almost as if he purposefully went out of his way to set himself up for failure and did everything he possibly could to ensure it would be so.

Scott

 

[galenrog]

Quite right. What I find so silly about some of these folks is that they work their scam in such an obvious way that even my side of the family can see it coming before it clears the horizon. I wish the man well on honest employment, should he seek it.

Galen

 

[kurt]

which specializes in gold minning

the purpose of which is the delivery of gold for ASSAY

(at least 1,000 kg of gold per month).

So there I was having my first cup of coffee when I read Davids post about an hour after he posted it & it was those three things that stood out & poked me in the eye like a sharp stick

I mean a company in the business of mining gold with a MONTHLY production of AT LEAST 1,000 kg --- and they don't have their own lab to assay their own product along with an already established market for that amount of gold ----- & I wasn't even awake yet to see through that one

Harold - Scott - I love the way you guys tear these guys apart

David - take Harolds advise - contact Johnson Matthey - they handle accounts like this all day every day

Kurt

 

[snowdog20]

My name ****oo Abuji from Nigeria, I am writing this letter to the members of the goldrefining forum to inform them of an opportunity to share in the sum of $24,000,000,000,000 (Zimbabwean dollars) left to me by my uncle who was a great general in the congo...All you must do is pay $5000 american dollars to acct # 123456 bank of Nigeria. Please hurry!

 

[patnor1011]

If you like that feeling of having couple hundred trillion $ go here where all dreams come true:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xhundred+trillion&_nkw=hundred+trillion&_sacat=0&_from=R40

 

[Harold_V]

Harold - Scott - I love the way you guys tear these guys apart

Frankly, I'm not pleased that I have to do such things. I've long preached a kind and peaceful environment on this board, thus, my response goes against everything I stand for. However, when someone takes us for a bunch of fools, something needs to be said. Don't come here with your cockamamie, mindless thoughts, and we'll respond in kind by being polite when you come with something believable.

Damn it! Nobody goes around the internet, shopping for a buyer for multi-millions of dollars worth of gold---no one. That tells me that this guy is either a damned fool, a crook, or he's not being honest with the readers, for what ever reason, although he may well have gold he wants to sell. Until the truth can be determined, who, in their right mind, would get involved? World class scam artists have ways of enticing the vulnerable. They may not ask for anything at the outset, but the other shoe will drop, and it most likely will not be pleasant.

I've lived to be 74 years old. In all that time, the only thing I can remember getting for free is a bad time. Didn't even have to ask for it sometimes, although I'm quite adept at doing so, either inadvertently, or on purpose.

If this guy is legitimate, he's been given an opportunity to explain himself. I have yet to read anything further.

Harold

 

[kurt]

Harold - Scott - I love the way you guys tear these guys apart

Frankly, I'm not pleased that I have to do such things. I've long preached a kind and peaceful environment on this board, thus, my response goes against everything I stand for. However, when someone takes us for a bunch of fools, something needs to be said. Don't come here with your cockamamie, mindless thoughts, and we'll respond in kind by being polite when you come with something believable.

Damn it! Nobody goes around the internet, shopping for a buyer for multi-millions of dollars worth of gold---no one. That tells me that this guy is either a damned fool, a crook, or he's not being honest with the readers, for what ever reason, although he may well have gold he wants to sell. Until the truth can be determined, who, in their right mind, would get involved? World class scam artists have ways of enticing the vulnerable. They may not ask for anything at the outset, but the other shoe will drop, and it most likely will not be pleasant.

I've lived to be 74 years old. In all that time, the only thing I can remember getting for free is a bad time. Didn't even have to ask for it sometimes, although I'm quite adept at doing so, either inadvertently, or on purpose.

If this guy is legitimate, he's been given an opportunity to explain himself. I have yet to read anything further.

Harold

Yep - & I fully understand where you are coming from Harold but its one of those things your going to get when you run an open forum - you get the scamers, trolls, entitlement attitude etc --- its kinda like the job of taking out the garbage - its an unpleastant job but someone has to do it to keep the place clean

Its the straight forward direct no nonsense approach you Harold - as well as others of the long & upstanding members we have on this forum use to take out the garbage & make their stay short lived thereby keeping the forum on the level that I so appreciate

I should mention Pat did a good job calling this guy out to - right from the beginning

Kurt