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An easy test for Nickel Chrome, Niobium dental fixtures, note the color change when heated cherry red using a Bic then cooled.

Tin/Silver Crowns will melt using the Bic, the Stainless Crowns as all the box's were marked Stainless Steel, so I never bothered to light one up.

Tested a various foils and wire which turned out to be Ni Cr.
 
Some interesting information from one of my ebay buyers a Dentist, the temporary crowns which I recently sold were alloyed tin/silver, you could melt these with a Bic lighter.

Modern dentistry - the temporary crowns go onto the tooth being capped - before the gold.

The Ni/Cr are permanent.

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Speaking of Niobium, I recently was given a bucket of the powdered form of the metal (about a pound or so). It's extremely light and easily blows around with even the slightest draft of wind. I found this information about the powdered form on the web:

Columbite concentrates and tin slags with a high tantalum content (greater than 10 percent) are directly dressed in most cases by a wet chemical process. Low-tantalum tin slags, on the other hand, are first melted in an electric-arc furnace with the addition of a flux material, and the tantalum-niobium content is collected as a ferroalloy. The tantalum-rich ore or ferroalloy is then crushed, ground, and decomposed in hydrofluoric acid. This is followed by a liquid-liquid extraction process, in which the two metals are dissolved in a slightly acidic aqueous feed solution into which an organic solvent, usually methyl isobutyl ketone, is mixed. The tantalum is extracted as a fluoride in the organic solution, while niobium remains in the aqueous residue, or raffinate. The niobium is then precipitated from solution as a fluoride by the addition of ammonium hydroxide, and the filter cake is dried and roasted, or calcined, at 900°–1,000° C (1,650°–1,800° F) to obtain niobium pentoxide. This oxide may be reduced aluminothermically to produce niobium reguli (impure metallic globules), as in the production of ferroniobium. The reguli may be further purified by electron-beam melting into ingots, or they may be put through a hydriding and dehydriding process to produce niobium powder.

In the hydriding process, the impure niobium is crushed into chunks and placed in a furnace, which is evacuated and heated to 800°–950° C (1,450°–1,750° F). Hydrogen is then fed to the furnace and passed over the charge for two to four hours. After hydriding, the niobium is crushed and pulverized to fine powder, which is then reheated and dehydrided in a vacuum to produce niobium powder. The powder can be pressed with a mechanical or isostatic press into “green” (that is, unfired) compacts with a density of 60–65 percent of the theoretical maximum and then sintered. Sintering is carried out in a vacuum at 2,100°–2,300° C (3,800°–4,150° F), either by direct-resistance heating or by indirect heating. When direct-resistance is applied, electrical contact is made via water-cooled copper clamps with brazed tungsten facings. The temperature is increased in stages to permit the evaporation of impurities and to prevent the sudden release of gas. During vacuum sintering, a purification of the metal takes place, leading to an improvement of its mechanical properties.


http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/718322/niobium-processing/82203/Niobium-powder

If I were to want to render this back down to a solid ingot, would I simply fire this in a crucible at some temperature? The MP of Nb is 2477C, which is very high (to say the least), but I imagine the powdered form would melt under lower temperatures? Not having any experience with this, I'm probably wrong.

Or is it more useful in the powdered form?

Thanks!
 
If I were to want to render this back down to a solid ingot, would I simply fire this in a crucible at some temperature? The MP of Nb is 2477C, which is very high (to say the least), but I imagine the powdered form would melt under lower temperatures? Not having any experience with this, I'm probably wrong.

At that temperature, what do you propose the crucible be made of? Whether in powdered or solid form, the melting point is the same. Even if you could find something to melt it in, it would surely oxidize like crazy. Once oxidized, you'll never get it back to metal, unless you go through the HF process and then electrodeposition from fused salts. Keep it, as is, as a curiosity.

Niobium isn't that light. It's density is only slightly less than copper. Are you sure it's metal and not an oxide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niobium
 
Hey GSP.

Well, I don't know. The second paragraph in the quoted section above has your answer, I would think.

I'll ask for more information from the guy I got it from, but he's had it so long he probably doesn't remember any details either. He used to construct nuclear/radioactive containment vessels for labs and such and has/had all sorts of interesting stuff on hand.

I'll make some time to play around with it later this week and get some photos to post.
 

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