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First off I wished I had Harold_V's resources when he built his filter press, since I do not came up with some ideas of my own to build a reasonably efficient filter.

My first choice is this arrangement, a center drum supported on ceramic bearings that has quadrillion holes drilled into the walls to permit the liquor to escape while the drum is spinning.

The smaller heavy wall plastic drum fits inside a larger heavy walled plastic pipe having a bottom press fit into place then having an O-ring to finalize the seal a bung to drain the liquor of course would be added for convenience.

The whole rig would be set into a bell crank similar to what you see on a cement mixer so that the filter could be tipped to empty the spent contents. Most of you have seen those large truck air filters that come in all sizes and lengths, I figure to purchase some long ones then cut them apart for the filter paper, line the inside of the small drum with it.

I pulled an old filter apart this afternoon and once you stretch out that accordion there's miles of filter paper making the cost negligible.

My second choice would be to turn that smaller heavy walled pipe into a cylinder with a piston with an O-Ring to complete the seal, then have my filter plate on the bottom using filter paper from the wine arts store. There is of course a number of ways to force the piston down forcing the liquor through the filter.

On another thought that same set up could be capped with no piston inside then using air pressure to force the liquor through the filter.

Running out of ideas here but here's the last of them and the least desirable, heavy walled plastic pipe with filter plat affixed to the bottom, press fit with an O-Ring to seal the rig, then affix a vibrator to the outside of the pipe to keep everything inside fluid. I'm not really wild on this one.

Anyone out there with a 4 axis cnc rig willing to drill some holes in a 10 inch diameter heavy walled plastic pipe.

Best Regards
Gill
 
On another thought that same set up could be capped with no piston inside then using air pressure to force the liquor through the filter.

I feel this is going to be your best bet.

However if you can't find any heavy walled PVC pipe I think I have some 10" SCH80 grey pipe if you want to pay the shipping.
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
On another thought that same set up could be capped with no piston inside then using air pressure to force the liquor through the filter.

I feel this is going to be your best bet.

However if you can't find any heavy walled PVC pipe I think I have some 10" SCH80 grey pipe if you want to pay the shipping.

Very generous of you Barren Realms 007, this order was filled this afternoon a couple of guys working on the addition to the Hog plant cut me off 4 feet of 12" with a wall thickness of 0.786", two union guys on the clock using a ATV crane to relocate the pipe for cutting, time about 45 minutes - cost free.

I also have the smaller heavy walled pipe on hand plus some heavy sheet from 1" to 1 3/4" which I think maybe nylon, plus a large round 12" x 8" to turn my pistons from.

All I need know are some bearings and fiberglass or carbon fiber rod stock to use as shafting for the drum to spin.

Best Regards
Gill
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
On another thought that same set up could be capped with no piston inside then using air pressure to force the liquor through the filter.

I feel this is going to be your best bet.


Forgot to mention the crap I need to filter is milled catalytic comb saturated with a pregnant AR presumably with PGM's, nice orange color.

On Steve's video the solutions look green, thinking he may have some iron from using the die grinder to open the cans.

Would like to hear from Oz on what colors his solutions are coming out as or anyone else that is processing cats.

The material I processed is from milled cats so the mixture is homogenized, not only from one type of cat.

Stage two of plan one. Load of filters recovered from a guy that cleans em for a living.

Regards
G
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.
 
Gill,

My solutions are green from the chlorine and/or palladium. The cats on the video were opened with a blow torch by someone else.

I've seen red, orange, yellow, green, red brown, and brown solutions from cats. Don't get too hung up on the solution color, follow your DMG and stannous tests to determine whats cooking.

Steve
 
qst42know said:
Gill

Didn't you just find a newish washing machine?

Doesn't it have a plastic basket in a plastic drum?

Yes and the machine weighs half of what I expected when loading it onto my truck. It's mostly plastic, the wife has spoken for the machine. It did cross my mind but thought there would be metal clamps holding the rubber diaphragm in place under the drum like in the older GE washing machines. For all I know the manufacture used nylon snap ties in place of the stainless steel clamps used years ago to cut costs.

Regards
G
 
lazersteve said:
Gill,

My solutions are green from the chlorine and/or palladium. The cats on the video were opened with a blow torch by someone else.

I've seen red, orange, yellow, green, red brown, and brown solutions from cats. Don't get too hung up on the solution color, follow your DMG and stannous tests to determine whats cooking.

Steve

Thanks for the reply Steve, the colors had me freaked out, noobs always think they've done something amiss.
 
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G
 
gustavus said:
qst42know said:
Gill

Didn't you just find a newish washing machine?

Doesn't it have a plastic basket in a plastic drum?

Yes and the machine weighs half of what I expected when loading it onto my truck. It's mostly plastic, the wife has spoken for the machine. It did cross my mind but thought there would be metal clamps holding the rubber diaphragm in place under the drum like in the older GE washing machines. For all I know the manufacture used nylon snap ties in place of the stainless steel clamps used years ago to cut costs.

Regards
G

If you run into another eliminate the agitator post and cover the hole with a machined piece of plastic (uhmw).

I understand not having to buy filter paper by recycling the used filter cartridges but, would a poly filter bag be easier to fit and fasten?
 
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.


Will do, water and another in AR, you'll have the results of our experiment tomorrow evening.
 
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.


Will do, water and another in AR, you'll have the results of our experiment tomorrow evening.

Ok thanks. Seems to me I might have run into filter paper similar to this coming apart because of water and I'm just curious if my memory is correct. Hopefully I am wrong.
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.


Will do, water and another in AR, you'll have the results of our experiment tomorrow evening.

Ok thanks. Seems to me I might have run into filter paper similar to this coming apart because of water and I'm just curious if my memory is correct. Hopefully I am wrong.

Your wrong, I'm doing the water to humor you, the AR for me.
 
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.


Will do, water and another in AR, you'll have the results of our experiment tomorrow evening.

Ok thanks. Seems to me I might have run into filter paper similar to this coming apart because of water and I'm just curious if my memory is correct. Hopefully I am wrong.

Your wrong, I'm doing the water to humor you, the AR for me.

I hope you are right. 8)
 
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
gustavus said:
Barren Realms 007 said:
What kind of plant are the filters out of? What might they have in them.

Wheat chaff, I'll blow them out before using them.

I got you that is the filter material you are going to use for this. Blowing/washing you will still have some chaff left but it shouldn't hurt anything. I never have found a way to get all the chaff out of a filter, it's worse than tying to clean gold.

I brought these filter home for a trial out, I'm only after the filter paper once you cut the ends off and stretch out the accordion the dust and crap comes off much easier had you blown the filter with air while it was still intact.

Once I have the rig made I'll post some pictures with some of the performance data.

Cheers
G


Do me a favor and take some of that filter material and put in some water for a couple of days and see what happens to it. Please.


Will do, water and another in AR, you'll have the results of our experiment tomorrow evening.

Ok thanks. Seems to me I might have run into filter paper similar to this coming apart because of water and I'm just curious if my memory is correct. Hopefully I am wrong.

Your wrong, I'm doing the water to humor you, the AR for me.

I hope you are right. 8)

I apologize form my black humor, the first one I dissembled was mush. I'll have to come up with something different for filter material.

Best Regards
Gill
 

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