Great find....life time

[Ak_626]

Greetings to all members and admins, happy new year and wish you the best.

I have came across a life time find, an old gold mine in the middle of the desert, my ancestors used to get gold out of it， Romans did and British.

Sadly the British before they leave my country the made act of revenge so no one can use this fortune. In the 3rd floor around 120 meter underground inside a very deep cave where depost is. They fludid it with mixture of water，cyanide and oil.

No one dare to go there. The smell is horrible and i can't tell how much cyanide they put inside.

I have fair experience dealing with chemicals and my question is:

1- if i managed to pump out this deadly mix， how can i neutralize cyanide and extract gold?
2- what materials i will need and precautions to take?

Thank you all

AK

 

[Justincase]

If they have filled a gold mine up with cyanide I would test to see if there was any Au in solution.
http://www.infomine.com/publications/docs/Botz1999.pdf

 

[kurtak]

If they have filled a gold mine up with cyanide I would test to see if there was any Au in solution.
http://www.infomine.com/publications/docs/Botz1999.pdf

I believe that was the point of his question - I don't have the answer so will leave to those that may

Kurt

 

[Justincase]

If they have filled a gold mine up with cyanide I would test to see if there was any Au in solution.
http://www.infomine.com/publications/docs/Botz1999.pdf

I believe that was the point of his question - I don't have the answer so will leave to those that may

Kurt

Sorry was suggesting a very good over view on the subject by the gold institute improper reading.
I found it very informative.
Is not the proper form to read and ground your self on a subject before bothering one of the better informed member's.
And by the by .if the description is accurate this may even need centrifugal separation of oil before what ever water treatment they decide.
How fascinating a problem that will require the proper input from a number of different disciplines just to plan.let alone implement on the ground.
I am very looking forward to more details.
J

 

[Ak_626]

If they have filled a gold mine up with cyanide I would test to see if there was any Au in solution.
http://www.infomine.com/publications/docs/Botz1999.pdf

Thanks for your reply Justinhcase. Could you please explain more what is AU? And what is the purpose of testing AU?

Regards
AK

 

[butcher]

Au is gold, before messing with cyanide, you will need to learn a lot more about it.
http://www.ptable.com/

 

[Justincase]

If they have filled a gold mine up with cyanide I would test to see if there was any Au in solution.
http://www.infomine.com/publications/docs/Botz1999.pdf

Thanks for your reply Justinhcase. Could you please explain more what is AU? And what is the purpose of testing AU?

Regards
AK

Well You do have a lot of reading to do.
Look up C.M.Hoke and read her very excellent book,You will find it on most people's signature line or the introduction to the site.
Then the over view I gave you the link to might make a bit more sense.
But on a project of that magnitude I would try to recruit some one with experience in the field of chemistry if not a specialist in the subject in hand .
What ever you should at least educate your self in the basic's Au is the chemical formula abbreviation for gold.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Regards
Justin

 

[Ak_626]

Thank you for the guidance，unfortunately having an assistance from a chemist is not applicable now or in near future.

I will start reading yet i was thinking to find a shortcut in the forum，something like a simple flow chart even an airhead can understand.

Steps mentioned in sequence including needed analysis，materials and H\W.
I'm looking forward to treat one to 3 tons at time in plastic containers.

 

[kurtak]

If cyanide is involved do NOT allow acids to be involved - you won't live to tell us about it

Edit; - acid mixed with cyanide is what produces the "deadly" gas

Kurt

 

[Justincase]

Thank you for the guidance，unfortunately having an assistance from a chemist is not applicable now or in near future.

I will start reading yet i was thinking to find a shortcut in the forum，something like a simple flow chart even an airhead can understand.

Steps mentioned in sequence including needed analysis，materials and H\W.
I'm looking forward to treat one to 3 tons at time in plastic containers.

The longest rout between two point's is the "Short Cut"
Even understanding the danger's so you can retrieve sample's safely will involve several different branches .
Every thing form a structural report on the access to an access specialist and rope man.
Who will have to be in hazmat suit with proper decontamination.
Then you might have a base to move forward with planing which will involve every one form your country's environmental agency to his mother twice removed on his grans side.
Highly toxic mine water combined in a confined space of unknown stability.
Do it the right way or walk away.
Research and recruit the correct help.

 

[Deano]

You first start with the known facts.

What reports are available which have been written about the mine closure.

If the mines department or similar of your country has no reports then you may be able to get reports from the archives of the company which last operated the mine.

If no reports are available then an organised expedition into the mine using full safety equipment is the only way to get samples for analysis.

Usually the myths about mines are more interesting than the resources left in the mine.

No one abandons a mine which has profitable ore reserves, insurrections excepted.

The most likely scenario is that when the profitable ore was exhausted, as part of a dodgy clean up the employees just threw any garbage they had down the mine.

This would include used oil and empty cyanide drums along with any other rubbish.

There is nothing new or unexpected about this, I have seen it happen many times.

What then happens is that someone who has little actual mining knowledge gets told of the myth as though it was fact and they end up wasting time and money.

According to myth all old mines still have high grade pockets and veins just waiting for a smart person to come along and make their fortune.

Best of luck to you if you want to try reopening this mine but do it using your own money so that you are the only one who gets hurt financially.

Deano

 

[t00nces2]

Some things aren't worth the danger.

It sounds like you have no idea what you are doing with cyanide or AU. While AU is relatively inert unless used as a projectile, cyanide, on the other hand, in the hands of someone unschooled in handling and usage techniques can result in consequences detrimental to the health of the individual using the cyanide. While this will be beneficial to the overall survivability of the human genome as a weeding out of weaker components, from the standpoint of the individual, results of the benificiality are more questionable.

If you were my son, I would recommend against. If you were my ex-wife,... give 'er a whirl, girl!