help with getting paid right

[Palladium]

in regards to your response
Sent: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:07 pm
From: sh3030
To: Palladium

you stated that "If it would make you feel better about the answers you receive then pay a professional to give you his unbiased opinion."

We are looking for someone that would be unbiased in there assessment of our materials. We cannot seem to find honest people in this industry.

Do you have a contact...........?


Yeah, Good luck with that one friend. I have a list of contacts a mile long.
Maybe i could sell you some being as how i have no income because i spend my days on here trying to help people who want information for free because my life is so depressing and i have no other goals in life.


ROLL TIDE !!!!!

 

[glorycloud]

:lol: :lol:

You a funny man Palladium! 8)

 

[butcher]

people here do spend there time and go to alot of trouble doing it,
we cannot satisfy everyone, and honest answer's some may not like, we do not know everything an at times there may be some information not correct or incomplete, but for the most part you will not find more information on these subjects, and people so willing to see you succeed in your goal of refining, sorry if this forum is not what you were looking for, but if you are not just angry because we did not tell you what you wanted to hear, or know exactly what your rocks are worth by seeing a picture of them, and calm down you may find this a place for you, if not good luck on your search, hope all the answers you get in life are what you are looking for. you may find they are not always, and palladiums comment to watch out for that door is good advice, we are saftey concious, and don't wish nobody to get hurt.

 

[sh3030]

wow, someone starts stating incorrect data and assumptions and this is what happens.

I guess i will not point out the obvious anymore.

your funny P !

 

[Anonymous]

I want to know, if you have a buyer and they told you that the materials you have are high grade and paid you as such, why are you bothering with asking? I am not spouting off, just wanting to know your real reason? Since you obviously know what you have and have a buyer - this was all a big fat waste of time.

Jim

 

[sh3030]

Jim (or James)

The reason that I posted the question is because I feel that some of this material may have even higher value than the $5+ a lb in the past...... so...... obviously when we have thousands of pounds of these it makes sense to double check.

Hope that answers your question.....

 

[shyknee]

wow :lol: :x :evil: :roll: :mrgreen:

 

[Platdigger]

What soured everyone here, or set the stage for you sh, was your statement:
"people like Chumba are a waste of time on these message boards."

I think you should either apoligize and delete the post, or, just leave the forum.

People here tend to look out for one another.

 

[Oz]

If you are here to check to see if perhaps you are being shortchanged on the value of your material at $5 a pound (some have been shorted in the past) and just doing comparison shopping, I understand that.

I have no reason to believe anyone here has tried to mislead you as to the value of your material based on their past experience. You wished to gain the expertise of those here for free (no problem there as all is given freely). We are a forum that has great strength by networking and helping each other, in this way we all benefit.

My only question would be that if you wished to be a productive member on this forum and feel you have superior knowledge as to where to sell such material as you have shown, why have you not just shared with others how they also can get such a price? There is certainly copious information here for free that would more than compensate you for your generosity. Even the most highly experienced and formally educated here admit to learning from this forum.

It seems a little unfair for you to tell people how wrong they are yet not show how you know better or who you are selling to. I think it is fair to say that if you can show others how to more than double the payouts they have been receiving for this type of scrap, they would be glad to eat humble pie in rather large doses.

Anything short of you showing why those who have tried to help you are wrong and showing us how you get paid so handsomely would lead me to come to one of 2 conclusions. Either you are here to only take and do not wish to reciprocate, or you have backed yourself into a corner claiming higher value and now have no graceful way to back out of your statements yet still save face.

Here is a wonderful opportunity (even if you may not realize it). Either say you were mistaken, or show us how those that tried to help you were mistaken. Either of those I believe would be well received here.

Allowing this to degrade into an argument without facts serves no one well. The majority that has replied to you so far have a proven track record of trying to help others with the best information they have available to them.

Being new here it remains to be seen if you wish to be a team player.

 

[patnor1011]

We have been paid for these types in the past --- MUCH MUCH more that what your responses on here have been.

If you did not notice there is sort of economic crisis around globe. most of metal on your boards is copper and that fell down to half of the price we used to get in the past.

 

[qst42know]

and what type of test did you run there.

Have you had your material properly sampled and honestly assayed?

Do you have any real yield data or just a high opinion of your stuff?

If you have a buyer willing to pay you so much for these boards why not share your contact so that others here may benefit?




grammar edit

 

[silversaddle1]

Jim (or James)

The reason that I posted the question is because I feel that some of this material may have even higher value than the $5+ a lb in the past...... so...... obviously when we have thousands of pounds of these it makes sense to double check.

Hope that answers your question.....

Please, Please, Please tell me who paid you 5 dollars a pound for that stuff. In fact, I have 3 gaylords full of backplanes, and over a 1000 pounds of gold connectors like yours. I'd love to get $5.00 a pound for them. In fact, if you set me up with your buyer, I'll give you $1.00 for every pound I sell them at $5.00 a pound.


There, I put my money where my mouth is, will you do the same?

 

[nickvc]

oz may i say that was put very well in very placatory language.Anyone who cares to learn, and be guided, when they cant follow or understand all the nuances of refining or evaluating the worth of precious metal sources could not find a better place to be.This forum is full of many hands on experts, some highly qualified and even more highly experienced; that give freely their time and advice, and not to listen or argue against their advice without reason or proof of why they are wrong is arrogant in the extreme.I,ve worked in this business 4 many years and wouldnt dream of argueing with the likes of harold v or gsp or you without setting out all the facts for all to see and giving the chance to prove me wrong. :!:

 

[sh3030]

silversaddle1,

good luck buddy!

 

[silversaddle1]

silversaddle1,

good luck buddy! I dont help *****.

*****? I gave you an honest idea of what your stuff would grade out at, then offer you a $10,000.00 cut of a scrap gold deal, and you call me an ass? You Sir, are the ass, and all on this board will see you as that.

 

[glorycloud]

Here is an excerpt from a November 5th, 2009 escrap newsletter:

PWB prices making up lost ground

October's price of $4.88 per pound was a stunning 8.0 percent improvement over September and leaped 36.7 percent over the year-earlier figure. October was the second best price in this decade, topped only by March 2008's $5.03 price.

This data represents the full metallic values of boards over time and are not the recycling values, as those values do not include the costs involved in actually extracting metal from boards, including freight, sampling charges, assay assessments, smelting, refining, process loss, return on investment, and penalties for various elements, including beryllium, bismuth and nickel.

These values are for the estimated intrinsic metal content of recovered PC boards. Some consumers label such material as mid-value. Lower-value scrap includes monitor and television boards. Higher-value scrap includes network and video cards, and motherboards.

In the first 10 months of 2009, the average price was $4.20 per pound, down 6.3 percent from the 2008 result.

Perhaps this will answer a few questions for us all. 8)

 

[goldsilverpro]

Guys,

In every argument I've seen on this forum, both sides thought they were right and neither would back down. This usually results in the argument snowballing with a lot of name calling on both sides. In the end, one of the parties usually gets banned from the forum. Most all these arguments are based on very stupid things, as this one is. Someone gets under someone else's skin, and the show is on.

If this argument continues, somebody is going to get kicked off. One thing we won't tolerate is name calling. I would strongly suggest that you guys cease and desist. We don't expect you to like each other, but you'd better show respect for each other.

Chris Owen
Moderator

 

[sh3030]

I believe a big misunderstanding occurred here.

I will just lurk from now on. I ask and post a question and get some incorrect answers. When I point out the issue all H*LL broke loose!

I am a calm man, never want to start an argument - especially over the internet....LOL

Just forget it Silversaddle, in the future if you want some sources just pm me. I always like to help others out when possible. We offer good deals by the way. You should check it out- check our ratings before you suggest others to stay away.

Everyone have a great week.

 

[silversaddle1]

I was never trying to upset you or offend you in any of the post. The reason I asked about your buyer is the best we can do around here is $2.40 a pound for boards just like the ones you have listed. So if you are getting $4-5.00 somewhere, we would sure like to know about it. It's all about sharing here. And the reason I mentioned to stay away from you on E-Bay is you seem to be a little short on fuse and nobody likes a hot head. I will remove that part of my post as a good faith gesture to you.

 

[sh3030]

the reason I may seem short is that I try to be very precise, fast, and not have any bs.

When Chumba goes on spouting that $1 a lb nonsense I feel the need to bring it up to the community as to not mislead anyone. SO, whatever :roll: