How hot does a cupel furnace need to be? Can it get hot enough that PMs are oxidized into bone ash cupels?

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zamistroe

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I processed a couple thousand pins that were gold plated the full length. When I got to the cupeling part it seemed that the base metals were oxidizing nicely and getting absorbed. Eventually, my button was soft, dense, and 'rose gold' in color. Did this mean there was just some copper left to go? The 'baser' base metals leave first, right? Well, fresh bone ash cupel and back into the furnace. I don't know if I turned the propane up too high, left it too long, or what, but that cupel was fully spent and also empty. What happened?
 
I processed a couple thousand pins that were gold plated the full length. When I got to the cupeling part it seemed that the base metals were oxidizing nicely and getting absorbed. Eventually, my button was soft, dense, and 'rose gold' in color. Did this mean there was just some copper left to go? The 'baser' base metals leave first, right? Well, fresh bone ash cupel and back into the furnace. I don't know if I turned the propane up too high, left it too long, or what, but that cupel was fully spent and also empty. What happened?
I have two questions here.
Why did you select cupelling when you have a Copper rich material?
How much in weight was these pins and what kind of pins?
 
I have two questions here.
Why did you select cupelling when you have a Copper rich material?
How much in weight was these pins and what kind of pins?
My understanding was all the non PM would oxidize and leave just Au and the like. Not so?
I had 12 oz of the sort found in Amphenol connectors. They were new old stock, just bare pins in a bag.
 
Generally copper rich materials benefit from scorification in assay quantities or in production quantities some form of parting to dissolve away the copper selectively.
I should also mention, I added lead to the the button before the final firing. About an equal weight. But that's not scorification I guess. I'm not clear on the difference between scorification and cupelling.
 
Scorification takes place in an open shallow ceramic dish and uses granulated lead and your material and borax. The lead oxidizes base metals into a slag and when the volume of the lead after it is driven by oxidation is about half, the remaining lead and slag is poured into a assay cone mold, deslagged, and that lead alloy chunk is cupelled in a bone ash cupel.

This is an assay scale procedure not for large lots.
 
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My understanding was all the non PM would oxidize and leave just Au and the like. Not so?
I had 12 oz of the sort found in Amphenol connectors. They were new old stock, just bare pins in a bag.
I'm a metric guy but that is like 336 grams?
That could get between 0.2 and 1.5 grams ish depending on plating thickness.
How did you treat them prior to cupelling?
Copper seem to make cupelling harder so I wonder why you chose cupelling?
Best approach would be Cupric Chloride etching aka the AP process.
This will give you clean Gold foils which can be refined or melted as is.

Edited to adjust numbers.
 
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