thought of this might try someday copper thermite copper oxide and metal aluminum powder, thought it might be a way to convert some of my waste and burn out a few of these pesky stumps on my property, how about it Lou your the chemist (remember not too complicated suggestion in laymens terms please, Im only learning chemistry, and at 52 years old, Old dogs learn slower, but better) or maybe a lil help from Noxx who likes fireing things up, might make copper clumps I could sell to scrap yard. or might come in handy welding on large metals, nothing else good education thanks. danny the ancient people built fire pits with rock tops and used tubes to blow air ,to make copper and bronze tools, I have done similar making Iron sword using coal, charcoal, and a fan for air, as i understand it copper will need a carbon source to convert to metal Like flour, charcoal, straw ect.