mwaurelius
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Ok, obviously I'm new. I'd like to thank that other self-proclaimed new guy out there who put that WONDERFUL pdf guide to searching on the the forum.
I'm not to the point of doing anything chemical yet, I'm still reading Hoke's. I'm just trying to get enough useful bits to think about a first batch. I've got some of my own old computers in my storage unit here in the building, but I thought I'd start with a really cheap, old tower I saw on craigslist.
So, I'll start by listing the mistakes I already know I've made.
1) Even if it's only $20, spending ANYTHING on a eMachines branded computer is too much. The thing only had one memory stick, one PCI card (dial-up modem) and I don't think the IDE pins or the PCI socket pins have any gold on them at all - I should see something if it's even gold plated, right?
2) If you're going to use a heat gun (like me), torch, or other heat source besides maybe incineration to desolder a motherboard, first remove all the plastic on the board (I was trying to avoid it with the gun) and also, REMOVE ALL THOSE ELECTROLYTE CAPACITORS!!! Those things are filled with a liquid or semi-liquid electrolyte and will explode when they get hot enough. I thought the first pop, which was kind of small, was maybe one of them discharging which didn't make sense. The second one was much too big to miss for what it was. I didn't have any problems from the explosion itself or the hot material, but I've still got a funny taste in my mouth from whatever-it-was inside the cap which was atomized. By the way, I searched (yes, after the fact) for hazards of motherboard stripping, only got 4 results, and they were not relevant.
Now, what I'd like to know is what is worth keeping as well as how to segregate; also, are there any other landmines I haven't found yet?
I have mechanically stripped out everything, have the base metals from the case, heatsinks, cables and what not which I can take to the scrap yard after I have a large enough pile. I cut the fingers off the memory and PCI cards and put them in a ziploc, the mylars from the keyboard and a few bits of ribbon cable from the drives which look like they have silver plated ends are in another, the drive boards are set aside for the moment, the Celeron CPU is waiting desoldering of the pins before I crush it up. I was working on desoldering the MLCC's, SIP's, DIP's, and quads when the minor explosion side tracked me.
The board has onboard graphics and northbridge chips; I assume the bigger one with the part number which matches the number printed on the board is the graphics, right? Both contain gold? ((edit) Found one of patnor1011's posts, so I think I have the question of does it contain gold answered: yes . . . but. The chips each have a round metallic heat sink on the top which means the gold content will be low. BUT the solder on the back of the board is for MLCC's and the like, not pins, so how do I get the thing off? Hammer?)
There are MLCC's (C) and resistors (R), but what is a J? And do they all contain useful metals or just the MLCC's? I don't see a reasonable way to sort them out once they are off the board. What about the SIP's, DIP's, and small quads? On the HDD board are any of the bigger bits worth keeping? I do know to keep the memory chips themselves.
Before anybody mentions it, yes, I know, don't quit my day job. I'm at the experimentation and learning stage so I'll consider the time spent an investment. Maybe it can turn into a profitable venture some day, but if all I do is break even on a hobby, I'll consider it a win.
Oh, one last note. There is a 1 cm2 quad stuck in a plastic socket. Is it worth keeping and how I go about getting it out of the socket?
I'm not to the point of doing anything chemical yet, I'm still reading Hoke's. I'm just trying to get enough useful bits to think about a first batch. I've got some of my own old computers in my storage unit here in the building, but I thought I'd start with a really cheap, old tower I saw on craigslist.
So, I'll start by listing the mistakes I already know I've made.
1) Even if it's only $20, spending ANYTHING on a eMachines branded computer is too much. The thing only had one memory stick, one PCI card (dial-up modem) and I don't think the IDE pins or the PCI socket pins have any gold on them at all - I should see something if it's even gold plated, right?
2) If you're going to use a heat gun (like me), torch, or other heat source besides maybe incineration to desolder a motherboard, first remove all the plastic on the board (I was trying to avoid it with the gun) and also, REMOVE ALL THOSE ELECTROLYTE CAPACITORS!!! Those things are filled with a liquid or semi-liquid electrolyte and will explode when they get hot enough. I thought the first pop, which was kind of small, was maybe one of them discharging which didn't make sense. The second one was much too big to miss for what it was. I didn't have any problems from the explosion itself or the hot material, but I've still got a funny taste in my mouth from whatever-it-was inside the cap which was atomized. By the way, I searched (yes, after the fact) for hazards of motherboard stripping, only got 4 results, and they were not relevant.
Now, what I'd like to know is what is worth keeping as well as how to segregate; also, are there any other landmines I haven't found yet?
I have mechanically stripped out everything, have the base metals from the case, heatsinks, cables and what not which I can take to the scrap yard after I have a large enough pile. I cut the fingers off the memory and PCI cards and put them in a ziploc, the mylars from the keyboard and a few bits of ribbon cable from the drives which look like they have silver plated ends are in another, the drive boards are set aside for the moment, the Celeron CPU is waiting desoldering of the pins before I crush it up. I was working on desoldering the MLCC's, SIP's, DIP's, and quads when the minor explosion side tracked me.
The board has onboard graphics and northbridge chips; I assume the bigger one with the part number which matches the number printed on the board is the graphics, right? Both contain gold? ((edit) Found one of patnor1011's posts, so I think I have the question of does it contain gold answered: yes . . . but. The chips each have a round metallic heat sink on the top which means the gold content will be low. BUT the solder on the back of the board is for MLCC's and the like, not pins, so how do I get the thing off? Hammer?)
There are MLCC's (C) and resistors (R), but what is a J? And do they all contain useful metals or just the MLCC's? I don't see a reasonable way to sort them out once they are off the board. What about the SIP's, DIP's, and small quads? On the HDD board are any of the bigger bits worth keeping? I do know to keep the memory chips themselves.
Before anybody mentions it, yes, I know, don't quit my day job. I'm at the experimentation and learning stage so I'll consider the time spent an investment. Maybe it can turn into a profitable venture some day, but if all I do is break even on a hobby, I'll consider it a win.
Oh, one last note. There is a 1 cm2 quad stuck in a plastic socket. Is it worth keeping and how I go about getting it out of the socket?