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michael1311

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Anyone know how the refinery's are able to lock in prices and let you deliver the gold? The only way I can think of is they sell the physical gold somewhere else then replace it with yours? Or go short in a trading platform then close the position when you deliver? The only problem I can see with this is, if you lock in 105oz you can only short 100oz lots so that leaves 5oz exposed?
 
Instead of thinking in just one 105oz lot from just one person doing a deal on any given day, take your mind for an exploration of HUNDREDS of those deals happening on one day (later, for a real experience, expand that to thousands) and then take that number to expand to 7 days, then 30, then 365.

Change the price paid every day - by $30/oz if you like (which rarely happens on a consistent basis) and remember to have some days that are up, some that are down (take the real gold price chart from the last few months to make this easier).

Take that total one year buy and divide it by 365 to get an AVERAGE price.

Every good business does this kind of thing - looking at the LONG TERM values, not just one deal from one person on any given day. It is called "looking at the big picture" for a reason - too much detail on too small a focus creates a lot of doubt.

Not sure what your interest is on this forum, but presuming you are 'Urban Mining' (gold from various ewaste products), it relates to the fact that there are millions of tons of waste out there and all you really need are a few good pieces. You have the belief that you will find them. And why? Because you know there are millions of tons of waste - i.e., you can see that big picture..... Take that scope when looking at Price Locking, you will get the idea.
 
hello,

no 100% there are refineries out there now who will lock in. Price x Grams of fine gold and let you deliver in a future date. They are running a really small margin 3% under for example, so there is definitely software out there or some way to do it. I can only assume the refinery sells the equivalent gold elsewhere then replaces it with your gold + 3% more. A short position through a broker will only allow you to short 100oz or 10oz. However these people are doing it, 7.6oz could be locked in for example.
 
It would not require a fancy program to aggregate all of your lots as they come in and hedge accordingly. A simple Excel Spreadsheet would suffice.

You have to remember that even though you are locking 7.6 ounces, they have many such lots come in.
 

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