I have a 2 ounce button from 10k but some 14k plate . It has not been refined down to pure gold when i put 10k nitric tester on it stays clear for about 10 seconds the very slowly starts to bubble blue green . Do you think it is less than 10k im sure it probably is because it has not been refined but im new at all this. Thanks foer the help in advance.
Question about a gold button from 10k plate
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I've never seen actual yellow 10K or 14K plating. Jewelry plating can be 10K or 14K in color but, in actuality, the karat is much higher. On electronic scrap, the plating is always close to 24K.
What type material did you process? What process did you use to get the 2 oz button?
What type material did you process? What process did you use to get the 2 oz button?
Geo
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so you just took some 10k jewelry and mixed it with some 14k plated jewelry and melted it into a button? and now your wondering why it doesnt test at least 10k?
that one is easy. you took 10k gold and contaminated it with what ever base metal was in the plated jewelry. you could have sold the 10k near spot for the known gold content if you had not melted it. now its not even 10k and theres nothing you can do with it because the gold buyers wont buy it.
let me see if i play detective. first i dont want to insult anyone so this is just for fun.
first you decided you wanted to try and make some money in the fast growing gold market so you bought a test kit and then a bunch of jewelry not knowing what you were doing. when you went to resell the jewelry, you were informed that some of it was fake by someone that did know what the were doing.so being stuck with fake jewelry you assumed that since the fake stuff was plated in 14k, if you melted it and mixed it with 10k it should test at least 10k and you can sell it all for 10k and get some of the money you spent back. so you take the lump back to several different places and all tell you that it might have some gold in it, but its not 10k and they dont want it.
well you will have to refine it now. start by downloading Hoke's book "refining precious metal waste" http://www.scribd.com/doc/2815953/Refining-Precious-Metal-Wastes-C-M-Hoke
that one is easy. you took 10k gold and contaminated it with what ever base metal was in the plated jewelry. you could have sold the 10k near spot for the known gold content if you had not melted it. now its not even 10k and theres nothing you can do with it because the gold buyers wont buy it.
let me see if i play detective. first i dont want to insult anyone so this is just for fun.
first you decided you wanted to try and make some money in the fast growing gold market so you bought a test kit and then a bunch of jewelry not knowing what you were doing. when you went to resell the jewelry, you were informed that some of it was fake by someone that did know what the were doing.so being stuck with fake jewelry you assumed that since the fake stuff was plated in 14k, if you melted it and mixed it with 10k it should test at least 10k and you can sell it all for 10k and get some of the money you spent back. so you take the lump back to several different places and all tell you that it might have some gold in it, but its not 10k and they dont want it.
well you will have to refine it now. start by downloading Hoke's book "refining precious metal waste" http://www.scribd.com/doc/2815953/Refining-Precious-Metal-Wastes-C-M-Hoke
I come to this fourm for all the great info . I learned how to refine silver last year from here and did really well . It is a hobby that i love like finding a good deal and doubling your investment Now im sure you have alot of people come on here asking stupid questions but everybody has to learn from somewere.
Im sure it needs to be refined and probably not even a 1/4 gold but if it is not it was worth the gamble i bought 250 pounds of jewelry from a cash for gold place that was going out of buisness . It was their scrap pile of broken ,filled , and stuff below 10k that they did not catch and some 22k i quess there tester did not pick up. Anyway i gave some of the plated stuff to a friend and this is half the gold that came from it.
Geo
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i wasnt seriously meaning what i said. i could tell by the date you joined you had been here awhile. i apologize for my country brand of humor.
but i was serious about reading Hoke. it will get you caught up on what you need to do to get started on the mass of metal you are working on.
first, you will need to remelt it and pour it into shot or cornflake it. i would follow that with a hard boil in hcl to try and remove as much tin as i could. if it were me i would repeat that step a couple of times just to make sure. incinerate or remelt into shot or cornflake followed by dissolution in nitric acid.
but i was serious about reading Hoke. it will get you caught up on what you need to do to get started on the mass of metal you are working on.
first, you will need to remelt it and pour it into shot or cornflake it. i would follow that with a hard boil in hcl to try and remove as much tin as i could. if it were me i would repeat that step a couple of times just to make sure. incinerate or remelt into shot or cornflake followed by dissolution in nitric acid.
As you described it and to give you the benefit of the doubt, I would guess the material you started with is worth about $20/pound. Therefore, if you were to end up with 2 oz of 10K gold, you would have to process 66 pounds of that material. How much did you process?
goldsilverpro said:
He prossessed 125 pounds man i need to sell some of it i quess i am going to pick up 2 more boxes tomorrow 27 lb in one and 20 in the other. All is not marked but most of it is really old and show no wear on the corners . You can rub it on the acid test stone a couple of times before the acid eats it.Most if it that is there is some junk.
