Sodium cyanide
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patnor1011
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This is not sugar you are looking for. You have to contact proper places and secondly it is not a thing every Joe can use in his garden or shed.
It may be pressing matter for you but please do not double posts and delete one of them before somebody reply on that.
It may be pressing matter for you but please do not double posts and delete one of them before somebody reply on that.
patnor1011
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Andy, problem is that you have to met some requirements to get this chemical. You have to have vast experience when trying to use this as mistakes are deadly and you will do mistake only once. If you are not able to source that officially do not expect you will buy that on the street. Everything looks perfect in theory and by reading on how it works you cant get grip on that to do it safe. Would you be willing to get job clearing minefields tomorrow?
Not to mention that it is not a substance you will be willing to sell to complete stranger on internet forum. Liability will hit back hard in case something will go wrong. Research safer methods or try to met conditions required by authorities.
Not to mention that it is not a substance you will be willing to sell to complete stranger on internet forum. Liability will hit back hard in case something will go wrong. Research safer methods or try to met conditions required by authorities.
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I agree with Pat.
I was talking with a friend of mine last night(a moderator) and he has a great phrase concerning cyanide......."You make a mistake once,and you won't get a second chance to do it right."
I would suggest looking into thio leaching instead.It's much safer and can be bought from almost anywhere without setting off any red flags.
I was talking with a friend of mine last night(a moderator) and he has a great phrase concerning cyanide......."You make a mistake once,and you won't get a second chance to do it right."
I would suggest looking into thio leaching instead.It's much safer and can be bought from almost anywhere without setting off any red flags.
jeneje
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I am not sure about this...but to use cyanide you must monitor the ph to see that it dose not exceed the safe level. just what i read somewhere. Also one must have the proper safety equipment in place if something does go wrong, it can be a mistake to think one could use this around a neighbor hood. Correct me if I have stated something wrong please.
Ken
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husker4515
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Hey there are multiple ways to process gold without using sodium cyanide that are safer. Just browse this forum and you will find a way.
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Long before you worry about a source of cyanide, you should research local regulations to insure that you can, indeed, use it legally. I expect you won't be able to. Since 9/11 I expect the noose has been tightened extensively. It was difficult to procure before that date.
Sounds like you know and understand chemistry ----so maybe the cautions aren't important to you. It is important, however, that cyanide should not go lower than 9½ pH in order to remain safe.
Cyanide is used extensively in the plating industry. It has been, in the past, purchased from any of the normal chemical supply houses, assuming you had the proper credentials. It is (was) available in 100 and 200 pound kegs, but regulations may make it impossible for you to acquire.
Harold
Sounds like you know and understand chemistry ----so maybe the cautions aren't important to you. It is important, however, that cyanide should not go lower than 9½ pH in order to remain safe.
Cyanide is used extensively in the plating industry. It has been, in the past, purchased from any of the normal chemical supply houses, assuming you had the proper credentials. It is (was) available in 100 and 200 pound kegs, but regulations may make it impossible for you to acquire.
Harold
Juan Manuel Arcos Frank
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aunboy:
Where do you live?.CO= Colorado?
Look,How much cyanide do you need?Before cyanide is used then it must be treated because it is very toxic to environment,sodium hypochlorite method is the standard to do it.
Why do you want to use cyanide?
Regards.
Manuel
Where do you live?.CO= Colorado?
Look,How much cyanide do you need?Before cyanide is used then it must be treated because it is very toxic to environment,sodium hypochlorite method is the standard to do it.
Why do you want to use cyanide?
Regards.
Manuel
jeneje
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Just a ? here for - the need to know.... Is sodium hypochlorite what he is looking for.
Ken
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jeneje
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Harold_V said:
Thanks Harold, for the reply.
I suppose one could always make it from cyanuric acid, charcoal, and sodium carbonate 
Really though, with Right to Know Laws, and it's extreme toxicity, it's best you figure a work around.
Really though, with Right to Know Laws, and it's extreme toxicity, it's best you figure a work around.
Cody Reeder
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in my experience I have found cyanide to be a really usefull chemicial. you can use it for everything from making a beautifull paint pigment to using it as a fertaliser. (once in the soil bateria quickly break it doun releasing nitrogen compounds, it also kills pesky root eating insects)
I am trying to start up a small mining operation. I have used cyanide befor and I have been able to get a nice button of gold out of some of my ore by using cyanide.
I havent been able to find a place to buy pure (sodium) cyanide but I have been able to make small quantitys of it by reacting Sodium ferrocyanide (Na4Fe(CN)6) with sodium carbonate. (mix together in equal volumes and melt) the trouble is that Sodium ferrocyanide is rather expencive and its hard to get more than a few ounces at a time.
I would love to find a sorce where I could get several pounds of cyanide at a time for a resonable price, then I coud really go into buisness 8)
I am trying to start up a small mining operation. I have used cyanide befor and I have been able to get a nice button of gold out of some of my ore by using cyanide.
I havent been able to find a place to buy pure (sodium) cyanide but I have been able to make small quantitys of it by reacting Sodium ferrocyanide (Na4Fe(CN)6) with sodium carbonate. (mix together in equal volumes and melt) the trouble is that Sodium ferrocyanide is rather expencive and its hard to get more than a few ounces at a time.
I would love to find a sorce where I could get several pounds of cyanide at a time for a resonable price, then I coud really go into buisness 8)
patnor1011
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You can buy that here in 50kg drums:
http://www.jaggooverseas.com/electroplating-chemicals.html
or here - list of couple companies who sell that:
http://www.icis.com/Search/ProductNumber/106730/WorldWide/Sodium+Cyanide+%28143+33+9%29.htm
http://www.jaggooverseas.com/electroplating-chemicals.html
or here - list of couple companies who sell that:
http://www.icis.com/Search/ProductNumber/106730/WorldWide/Sodium+Cyanide+%28143+33+9%29.htm
Cody Reeder
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Do you know what the cost would be, or even if they would sell to me? also a 50lb drum of cyanide sounds a little hard to ship...
patnor1011
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This is the same problem that OP is facing. Cyanide is not something you can purchase in tesco and use it freely. However if you meet conditions required by suppliers you can buy as much as you need. You can contact them directly and ask what their conditions are.
