Taking apart this machine piece by piece

[PreciousMexpert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6x9fN-AX-Y
For starters what is the reaction vessel in this machine
I remember someone saying titanium could that be true

 

[Frankk12]

What is the blue barrel and why is he putting in the tube there
How about the scrubbers would it be only lye and water in there or would he have those scrubber balls or some other thing

 

[Drewbie]

The blue barrel had HCl in it and he's sucking it up into the machine with the tube. likewise the other container with HNO3 in it.

 

[golddie]

I don't know why they have gas for boiling the reaction vessel instead of electric heat

 

[golddie]

What would be the size of the blower for a unit like this
He has 3 scrubbers and they look like 3 feet long and 12 inches in diameter

 

[Refiner232121]

What would be inside of the control panel.
Also on top of one of the scrubber there is some kind of a gauge
Is it there to measure the pressure in the scrubber but the air is going to come out anyway from the exhaust hole so why have a gauge

 

[Drewbie]

I don't know why they have gas for boiling the reaction vessel instead of electric heat

In many countries, gas heating is far cheaper than electric. And more reliable.

 

[golddie]

Also on top of one of the scrubber there is some kind of a gauge
Is it there to measure the pressure in the scrubber but the air is going to come out anyway from the exhaust hole so why have a gauge

To regulate the scrubbers exhaust path.
This way you can open the path and close it according to the amount of the pH level of the solution .
I am not an expert on this but this is the best way I can explain this

 

[golddie]

I am thinking if it is really necessary to have a meter on top of one of the scrubbers
I have seen an Italian company that has a complete system and it is a bigger system and they don't have a meter on the scrubber

 

[Frankk12]

What would be the cost of making a machine like this.
You have the body that is in plastic ,the scrubbers,pH meter,control panel,tubes, valves
I don't see a need for an engineer for something like this

 

[HAuCl4]

Is that vessel made of kryptonite or unobtainium?. :lol:

 

[PreciousMexpert]

What would be the cost of making a machine like this.
You have the body that is in plastic ,the scrubbers,pH meter,control panel,tubes, valves
I don't see a need for an engineer for something like this

$1000.00 USD
I think he wants $65,000 USD for that machine

 

[goldenchild]

Is that vessel made of kryptonite or unobtainium?. :lol:

It's clearly made of Adamantium :roll:

 

[joem]

Is that vessel made of kryptonite or unobtainium?. :lol:

It's clearly made of Adamantium :roll:

:lol:

 

[HAuCl4]

Is that vessel made of kryptonite or unobtainium?. :lol:

It's clearly made of Adamantium :roll:

Either that or Cantaffordium. :lol:

 

[HAuCl4]

I have yet to see one of these "gold refining machines" that is not a scam at some level or another. $65,000.00 whew!. :shock:

Especially when the amount of gold they are showing in the video can be refined in a couple of cooking pots from a kitchen for less than $100 in equipment.

"If you can't convince them, confuse them." and "There is a sucker born every minute."

here's another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98fJ8-4qKkQ&feature=related

Look at the gymnastics in the video to refine maybe 5 Oz... have to laugh. :lol:

 

[PreciousMexpert]

HAuCl4
I think it does fall into the category of being a scam.

 

[4metals]

That unit does look kind of cheezy, there was a time when I thought all of the "refining machines" I've seen were kind of gimmicky. Last week I had the opportunity to visit the Italimpianti Orafi facility in Arezzo Italy and while I was there I saw some very nice, well made, functional pieces of acid refining equipment. For a guy just knocking out karat gold they make some impressive systems. Check out their tumbler plant for karat refining. http://www.italimpianti.it/ing/italimpianti.html They come in all sizes and configurations.

These units are excellent for a guy producing fine gold from karat scrap in quantity. Not that you can't get the same quality in buckets in a hood if you know what you're doing, but for those who want a quick start and can afford it, the tumbler plants are very nice.

 

[HAuCl4]

Those do look a lot better 4metals, and they look more like modular "mini-plants" that include separate scrubber, etc, etc. They are probably very expensive, knowing the italians, but they probably comply with all european regulations and are like a "turn-key" engineering solution. Maybe for someone with a lot of material to refine and little time to learn?. They probably get the job done well. The .pdf is nice for someone interested in building reactors and scrubbers, etc. Nothing that is not in this forum in one thread or another, though. The nicest thing is the italians have it compact and neat and modular. 8)

Little value for a bucket refiner like me. I'm downsizing to cast iron pots for 996+ products and used champagne bottles for 9999+ "demanding clients". :lol:
http://whatscookingamerica.net/Information/CastIronPans.htm

 

[Refiner232121]

tumbler plant for karat refining

We have so much info in this forum that I don't think anyone here would buy that.
Instead of a tumble a person can use one of those vibrating tools