Urban Mining

[goldsilverpro]

That's the name of a 511 page book on escrap. It sells for $48 - Amazon for a kindle edition and Lulu for a pdf by download.
http://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mining-Precious-Electronic-ebook/dp/B004AE3NLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332877237&sr=8-1
http://www.lulu.com/shop/aa-sandy-st/urban-mining-step-by-step-how-to-refine-gold-and-silver-from-e-waste/ebook/product-15985837.html

Here's the first part of the book.
http://www.amazon.com/Urban-Mining-Precious-Electronic-ebook/dp/B004AE3NLK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332877237&sr=8-1#reader_B004AE3NLK

Here's some stuff written on his website, pushing the book. The second link is mostly copied from the Gold Refining Forum - I know I wrote that Ag/nitric article towards the end. I would wonder if his entire 511 page book was plagiarized? To see more of his "articles", click on one of the phrases at the top of one of these pages.
http://www.x24kgold.com/2011/05/how-much-nitric-acid-to-dissolve-1.html
http://www.x24kgold.com/search/label/METAL%20Refining

I think that x24k.com was the one that was selling Steve Spevak's book under a new title, a few years back.

Here's the owner of x24k.com. He's in Gibraltar.
http://whois.domaintools.com/x24k.com

And more about Carmen Media, the owner of x24k.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Media

Has anyone bought this book? I know I shouldn't, but I think I'm going to buy a copy, just for kicks. I'll let you know how it is. Maybe the book wasn't plagiarized - maybe just the ads pushing it. Anyway, I'm curious.

The guy is probably a member since he seems to mainly get his stuff from the forum. Anyone know who he is?

 

[Palladium]

It seems the same person who's name appears as the author on the book also wrote this book. http://www.lulu.com/shop/aa-sandy-st/the-humorous-stories-of-obama/ebook/product-13506152.html

I've found no American copyright laws or registration for this book. I'm thinking it sure would be ashamed for it to get turned loose on the net for free after a paid download. :mrgreen:

 

[goldsilverpro]

It seems the same person who's name appears as the author on the book also wrote this book. http://www.lulu.com/shop/aa-sandy-st/the-humorous-stories-of-obama/ebook/product-13506152.html

I've found no American copyright laws or registration for this book. I'm thinking it sure would be ashamed for it to get turned loose on the net for free after a paid download. :mrgreen:

You think that's what we should do, eh, my old buddy?

I still don't have it. I bought it but it can only be opened in Adobe Digital Editions (ADE). I downloaded ADE twice and the book 3 times from Lulu. Won't open, at least yet. I wrote an email to Lulu. Hopefully, I'll eventually get it.

 

[Palladium]

[email protected]

:mrgreen:

 

[lazersteve]

The 'book' is obviously made up of excerpts from the forum. The first link GSP posted contains the text from an early thread on making nitric acid.

The same site X24 also posted copyrighted photos and text of Steve Spevaks ( aka nobelmetalsrecovery) .

Steve

 

[Palladium]

I still don't have it. I bought it but it can only be opened in Adobe Digital Editions (ADE). I downloaded ADE twice and the book 3 times from Lulu. Won't open, at least yet. I wrote an email to Lulu. Hopefully, I'll eventually get it.

See there Chris you have already exposed the scam. The scam is not in the fact that he's selling information from the forum in the form of a book. He just uses the website as eye candy. The scam is in the fact that the book itself never even existed. Somewhere in India right now there are two short guys laughing their *** off. Rotfl

 

[eeTHr]

Not too obvious, huh?

Here are a couple quotes from the two pages linked by GSP, where he says to click on one of the phrases---

">>>>I've worked out the nitric acid math to prove your point GSP,..."

"I have read many good posts by Harold on obtaining pure gold and decided to take the time and perform all the steps that he has so graciously told us about."


Cut and paste from others' writing? That just ain't right....

 

[goldsilverpro]

About 2/3 of the book can be read here, if you want the hassle.
http://books.google.com/books?id=DnFneCUt0RcC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=%22to+improve+the+competence+of+new+employees,+the+enterprise+may+set+up+a+training+programme%22&source=bl&ots=tAK8KD9es5&sig=nZa1fVOLYEK3VMhiz7XeVY6skzQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RHFzT5G0C4662gXI3NHWDg&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22to%20improve%20the%20competence%20of%20new%20employees%2C%20the%20enterprise%20may%20set%20up%20a%20training%20programme%22&f=false

 

[butcher]

From what I understand schools or colleges use a computer program to search a students work to see if it is copied or plagiarized from the intranet, it would be interesting to run this book through that program, I wonder if any forum members have access to a teacher who could do this to see if it is just not a copied and paste of other peoples hard work?

Sure looks like it is.

I wonder if author of Urban mining A.A. Sandy St. may be related to A.A. Sandy Stevans

 

[eeTHr]

On the last link given by GSP, pages 115 to 120 were cut and pasted from the beginning of the Gold Refining Forum Handbook #1.

 

[goldsilverpro]

From the book, I picked a sentence at random and then Googled the sentence exactly as it appeared. The sentence was, "to improve the competence of new employees, the enterprise may set up a training programme" Here's the search results. This sentence was most likely taken from one of the other 3 unrelated links that showed up in the search. So far, it seems that everything in the book was copied and pasted.
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22to+improve+the+competence+of+new+employees%2C+the+enterprise+may+set+up+a+training+programme%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

 

[jack_burton]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/102-5493690-1847300?ie=UTF8&nodeId=508088#copyright

Everyone should file a complaint.






Edit: Grammar.

 

[rusty]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/102-5493690-1847300?ie=UTF8&nodeId=508088#copyright

Everyone should file a complaint.






Edit: Grammar.

Yes a formal complaint from our forum owner would bring some action to have the book removed from circulation. Knoxx is the rightfull owner of all forum content.

 

[arex]

no need to fuss ... read for free here >>>>>

http://www.google.com/search?q=urban+mining&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1

This guy is good and creative, do not need to be angry because he must work hard to make this technical report.
This knowledge comes from God, so what needs to fuss ...?? :lol: :lol:
@goldsilverpro >>>@Palladium>>>>@lazersteve

 

[jimdoc]

no need to fuss ... read for free here >>>>>

http://www.google.com/search?q=urban+mining&btnG=Search+Books&tbm=bks&tbo=1

This guy is good and creative, do not need to be angry because he must work hard to make this technical report.
This knowledge comes from God, so what needs to fuss ...?? :lol: :lol:
@goldsilverpro >>>@Palladium>>>>@lazersteve

Is "this guy" you?

Jim

 

[Palladium]

Somebody can check his posting ip for a match.

 

[eeTHr]

This guy is good and creative, do not need to be angry because he must work hard to make this technical report.

This knowledge comes from God, so what needs to fuss ...?? :lol: :lol:

So it's hard and creative work to copy and paste?

If you understood the material, you could write the thing in your own words.

Since you use the excuse that everything comes from God, then you wouldn't mind if someone came into your house and left with whatever they wanted---Since it all came from God? By your thinking, God created crooks, too, so it's OK to steal!

I don't think that boat is going to float....

 

[AztekShine]

Unbelievable

 

[nickvc]

The saying caught with your hand in the cookie jar comes to mind....
If this guy or any other wants to cherry pick information off the forum,which is all here laid out for free, and condense it and then charge for his work I see no problem, but I feel and suspect royalties are due to the forum and it's owner for any sales as they are owned by forum.
Creative in making money perhaps but by taking others material not rewriting it and then trying to sell it isn't too bright as proving ownership isn't too hard, strike a deal with our leader Noxx and I'm sure all will be forgiven.... The ball is now in your court, or perhaps you will be in a different court!

 

[arex]

This guy is good and creative, do not need to be angry because he must work hard to make this technical report.

This knowledge comes from God, so what needs to fuss ...?? :lol: :lol:

So it's hard and creative work to copy and paste?

If you understood the material, you could write the thing in your own words.

Since you use the excuse that everything comes from God, then you wouldn't mind if someone came into your house and left with whatever they wanted---Since it all came from God? By your thinking, God created crooks, too, so it's OK to steal!

I don't think that boat is going to float....

I'm sure he also bought from others, and he wrote back (wooooowww...This is CREATIVE).... in my mind this is legal, for example....you buy the CAR and then you make change your CAR and you sell ...? nothing is wrong ...! !
Yes, all of God ...?God created earth and then GOD ever ask for royalties ....??Humans are greedy :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: