Average percentage of iridium in iron ore...

[Yggdrasil]

Yeah, the official scientific mandatory evidence must have an assay to qualify and pursue any further that's one way to go about it and then there's a guy like me who doesn't even know what he's doing but knows what he has is learned and had to teach himself the internet everything he's got so far as far as knowledge goes towards this iridium subject those guys like me that we got to feel for it you know I see some specimens that have that iridium look in the rocks that I bust up so I know that it's there I don't need to assay I know how much is there there's enough there that I got to pursue pointed out of those iron iron ore deposits I've been finding it in so don't don't trip on the last day you go get your assay for your iridium stock and feel good about it I don't want no assay I've got a lot of faith that I'm going to pull this off and I'll let you know about it later so don't trip potato chip... Woohoo!

You could try to use commas, periods and line breaks.
Now it is hard to read.

Even if you are right, without an assay you do not know how to process your ore.

 

[Yggdrasil]

You want to ban me because I believe in Jesus well you'll just be fulfilling in all his prophecies if you got to do that. I ain't talking no religion I'm talking relationship. I believe God made iridium available for you to even talk about how do you like me now? I'm not pushing anything on anyone I'm just trying to get some suggestions and learn some things about iridium have a good night sir...

You can believe in what ever for all we care, but you can not push it in here.
I’ll leave your destiny to Dave

Edited to avoid religious references

 

[Yggdrasil]

Whatever dude, ain't nobody knows much about iridium that's for damn sure ain't a whole lot of knowledge out there but I'll let you know later whatever

There are plenty knowledge about Iridium in here, but the ones processing it with regularity have not chimed in yet.
Maybe that can tell you something?

 

[Yggdrasil]

Yeah that's what I've been trying to smelt that I can't get it hot enough but I will eventually once I get a induction furnace for this but that stuff down at the end of the down at the bottom of the bottle of the aqua regia that Sledge that's the stuff it's all iridium crystals it rhodium crystals palladium crystals. It's all good...

Palladium will dissolve in Nitric alone, there should not be Pd left after a proper AR digest.
Much of the Rh and some of the Ir will be dissolved too.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thanks buddy a little bit of good humor is really what we needed in this touchy column... Woohoo!

What kind if contraption is this?
If you hope to dissolve any refractory metal, it needs to be exposed to the heat not hidden inside something.

With an oxy acetylene torch and proper heat management you should be able to melt small amounts if Ir and Rh.

 

[Lou]

Man, if I had a dime for every time someone had iridium or rhodium in their rocks, I'd have at least a couple bucks in change. All I have now is a deep respect for armchair experts in geology and x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy.

Ok, I'm off to refine some iridium...and get more coffee.

 

[kurtak]

No I've broken down the noble metal atoms with agua regia.

I asked if you are using a leaching process or a smelting process - you answer --- No - I've broken down the noble metal atoms with agua regia.

AR (agua regia) is a leaching process !!! --- therefore your answer should be --- YES - I am using an AR leaching process --- & for you information AR will NOT dissolve iridium (break iridium down into it's noble metal atoms) --- NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !!!

then there's a guy like me who doesn't even know what he's doing but knows what he has is learned and had to teach himself the internet everything he's got so far

Per the bold print - the internet - can & often is one of the worst places you can go to for finding information about refining - the internet is LOADED with "backyard hacks" playing with chemicals & have NO clue about what they are really doing & as result MUCH of what you find on the internet is LOADED with mis-information - incomplete information & even OFTEN out right wrong information

This forum was originally put together by some of the worlds very best LARGE scale refiners in the world

Refiners that ether consulted for LARGE world class refineries - ran LARGE world class refineries &/or owned their own LARGE world class refineries

As a result of the knowledge these LARGE WORLD CLASS refiners have shared on this forum we have had a GOOD MANY other members achieve the knowledge to start - run & own their own small - mid size & even large refineries - I happen to be just one of those MANY (though I am now retired) These are professional refiners that make their living EVERDAY refining PMs (Precious Metals)

We have even MANY more members that only work at a hobby level & though they only work at a hobby level - they are every bit as good at refining as the LARGE scale refiners because of the information provided on this forum

My point flashfossilized is that you have just joined the worlds VERY BEST source of information about refining PMs - you will find no better source of information anywhere else other then here

EVERYDAY we get new members (like you) that come here with problems & often times BIG messes - that we need to help fix - as a result of the information they find on the internet BEFORE coming here

In other words flashfossilized this forum is not just bunch of "backyard hacks" - playing with chemicals & calling themselves refiners --- rather - we are actual refiners discussing actual refining & as well we help "backyard hacks" with the problems they come here with AFTER they finally find this forum

As a new member here - don't you think you should be listening to the advice being given to you - by some of the worlds best refiners --- instead of assuming - thinking - that we are just a bunch of backyard hacks --- & therefore also assuming that you can tell us how much we don't know & how much more you do know

Taking on that kind of attitude - will sooner or later result in your being banned from this forum - which will in turn result in you loosing the very best source of information about refining you can ever hope to find

So your path forward is now up to you - you can start listening & learning - or ???? & see how long you last here

My next post will be an example of just how much good advice you are being given - good advice that you are currently ignoring

Kurt

 

[Yggdrasil]

I asked if you are using a leaching process or a smelting process - you answer --- No - I've broken down the noble metal atoms with agua regia.

AR (agua regia) is a leaching process !!! --- therefore your answer should be --- YES - I am using an AR leaching process --- & for you information AR will NOT dissolve iridium (break iridium down into it's noble metal atoms) --- NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !!!

Per the bold print - the internet - can & often is one of the worst places you can go to for finding information about refining - the internet is LOADED with "backyard hacks" playing with chemicals & have NO clue about what they are really doing & as result MUCH of what you find on the internet is LOADED with mis-information - incomplete information & even OFTEN out right wrong information

This forum was originally put together by some of the worlds very best LARGE scale refiners in the world

Refiners that ether consulted for LARGE world class refineries - ran LARGE world class refineries &/or owned their own LARGE world class refineries

As a result of the knowledge these LARGE WORLD CLASS refiners have shared on this forum we have had a GOOD MANY other members achieve the knowledge to start - run & own their own small - mid size & even large refineries - I happen to be just one of those MANY (though I am now retired) These are professional refiners that make their living EVERDAY refining PMs (Precious Metals)

We have even MANY more members that only work at a hobby level & though they only work at a hobby level - they are every bit as good at refining as the LARGE scale refiners because of the information provided on this forum

My point flashfossilized is that you have just joined the worlds VERY BEST source of information about refining PMs - you will find no better source of information anywhere else other then here

EVERYDAY we get new members (like you) that come here with problems & often times BIG messes - that we need to help fix - as a result of the information they find on the internet BEFORE coming here

In other words flashfossilized this forum is not just bunch of "backyard hacks" - playing with chemicals & calling themselves refiners --- rather - we are actual refiners discussing actual refining & as well we help "backyard hacks" with the problems they come here with AFTER they finally find this forum

As a new member here - don't you think you should be listening to the advice being given to you - by some of the worlds best refiners --- instead of assuming - thinking - that we are just a bunch of backyard hacks --- & therefore also assuming that you can tell us how much we don't know & how much more you do know

Taking on that kind of attitude - will sooner or later result in your being banned from this forum - which will in turn result in you loosing the very best source of information about refining you can ever hope to find

So your path forward is now up to you - you can start listening & learning - or ???? & see how long you last here

My next post will be an example of just how much good advice you are being given - good advice that you are currently ignoring

Kurt

Seems he is gone, no wonder though.

 

[orvi]

If all promised iridium, platinum or most importantly, rhodium, that was ever "shown and offered" to me was real, I would be millionaire But guess what, I am not...
Some people can´t bear crushing their premises and dreams but in my opinion, it need to be done as quickly as possible, for sake of their own good.

 

[kurtak]

Man, if I had a dime for every time someone had iridium or rhodium in their rocks, I'd have at least a couple bucks in change. All I have now is a deep respect for armchair experts in geology and x-ray fluorescence spectroscopy.

Ok, I'm off to refine some iridium...and get more coffee.

Flashfossilized - per the bold print - allow me to tell you who Lou is & what he is trying to tell you here

Lou has set up & runs 4 VERY LARGE refineries - he also specializes in the refining of PGMs (Platinum Group Metals) --- in fact because he is one of the worlds very best refiners of PGMs - other LARGE SCALE refiners that focus mostly on gold & silver send their PGMs to Lou for actual refining

PGM refining is WAY more complicated then refining gold or silver - therefore many of even the largest refineries focus on gold & silver - & then send their PGMs out to refineries that specialize in PGM refining

Companies like Johnson Matthey --- or Lou

Lou is being vary sarcastic in what he posted - why ?

Because - as a world leader in PGM refining - IF (the VERY BIG IF) every time someone came to him with an XRF readout on a rock - claiming the rock had iridium in it - he would have money in his pocket - likely LOTS OF MONEY

The problem is - Lou does not have that money in his pocket from these XRF readings on rock - & that is because most every time - if not every time - that XRF reading for iridium - turns out to be arsenic

That is what everyone - including now Lou - is trying to tell you --- you can not trust an XRF readout - on a rock - that claims to have iridium in it - & that is because most of the time - if not ALL the time - the iridium turns out to be arsenic

If you REALLY want to know you MUST send the rock in for a PGM assay & you need to tell them you are looking for the iridium

You - most certainly will not get the iridium out of the rock (IF it is even there) with AR leaching - you will just create a bunch of TOXIC chemical waste

You are NOT the first person to come here with a (false) claim of iridium in rocks --- based on an XRF readout

Read this thread again ----

https://goldrefiningforum.com/threads/false-iridium-finds.28009/#post-295508
80% iridium turned out to be 80% arsenic

Kurt

 

[kurtak]

Seems he is gone, no wonder though.

Oh well

hopefully what I have posted will help others

Kurt

 

[Yggdrasil]

Oh well

hopefully what I have posted will help others

Kurt

Sometimes I wish I had my hair back….
Ohh well, less painful this way

It should help, but when the fever rages…
I will not hold my breath, but one can hope

 

[FrugalRefiner]

Seems he is gone, no wonder though.

I only banned him for one week. If he returns, I hope he will have used that week to come to appreciate our rules, and the consequences for not following them.

Dave

 

[Lou]

Thanks for the kind words, Kurt.

I don't consider myself an expert, but I've refined thousands and thousands of ounces of iridium from a variety of interesting materials. I like to think I work with some of the world's best

Fact is, Ir is just so rare and only commercially viable from such a few places...
I understand why people get their hopes up, but even if by some stroke of great fortune he had iridium...it's not easy to sell.

 

[Yggdrasil]

Thanks for the kind words, Kurt.

I don't consider myself an expert, but I've refined thousands and thousands of ounces of iridium from a variety of interesting materials. I like to think I work with some of the world's best

Fact is, Ir is just so rare and only commercially viable from such a few places...
I understand why people get their hopes up, but even if by some stroke of great fortune he had iridium...it's not easy to sell.

Always good to hear your insights.

A small question, do you primarily leach/fuse the Ir or do you also do smelting/melting?
And do you only treat pre refined material or do you touch ores from time to time?

 

[MicheleM]

Thanks for the kind words, Kurt.

I don't consider myself an expert, but I've refined thousands and thousands of ounces of iridium from a variety of interesting materials. I like to think I work with some of the world's best

Fact is, Ir is just so rare and only commercially viable from such a few places...
I understand why people get their hopes up, but even if by some stroke of great fortune he had iridium...it's not easy to sell.

I'm curious to know what kind of materials are made of Ir alloys

 

[FrugalRefiner]

Do keep in mind that Lou provides for his family by the work he does. He has spent his lifetime developing his knowledge and experience. He isn't always free to discuss what he processes or how he does it.

Dave

 

[Yggdrasil]

Do keep in mind that Lou provides for his family by the work he does. He has spent his lifetime developing his knowledge and experience. He isn't always free to discuss what he processes or how he does it.

Dave

I tried to do questions generic enough to avoid revealing secrets

 

[Lou]

There really isn't iridium ore per se, there's just iridium as a byproduct of NiS separation from chromium during the matting process with Transvaal ores in S. Africa. By the time it's in the NiS it's already quite concentrated relative to in the original ore body. After removing the NiS it's very high grade. This is what's done at Lonmin, Anglo, Impala, etc.

We primarily process Ir from solids (i.e. spark plugs, crucibles), catalysts, chloralkali, and mostly refinery intermediates (i.e. pH 6 cake, or hydrolysis cake) from the primary producers and refiners of other PGMs.

How it is solubilized is entirely dependent on which impurities are in it, form etc.

No smelting is used at all.

 

[Yggdrasil]

There really isn't iridium ore per se, there's just iridium as a byproduct of NiS separation from chromium during the matting process with Transvaal ores in S. Africa. By the time it's in the NiS it's already quite concentrated relative to in the original ore body. After removing the NiS it's very high grade. This is what's done at Lonmin, Anglo, Impala, etc.

We primarily process Ir from solids (i.e. spark plugs, crucibles), catalysts, chloralkali, and mostly refinery intermediates (i.e. pH 6 cake, or hydrolysis cake) from the primary producers and refiners of other PGMs.

How it is solubilized is entirely dependent on which impurities are in it, form etc.

No smelting is used at all.

Informative as always.