sorry, I probably said it wrong. The question is more like "How much gold could you extract of a motherboard in average" ? Because knowing how much gold there is I can add my costs and calculate the profitability.g_axelsson said:That's impossible to say. It all comes down to your cost.
This is one example of a board of that type:canedane said:If all the bga and black chips are picked ,the value is near zero.
Thanks! This kind of tips are invaluable on my initiation in this business.chuckgambale said:As of today $1.70 per pound of that style board.
Small socket motherboards are a lower grade of PC motherboard.
These boards have CPU's such as Pentium 4, Athlon, Sempron, Celeron D and others.
As with all boards, we require the batteries to be removed before we can purchase them.
If there are batteries on the board, large or small, please remove them.
As a signle person, I can process one ton per two weeks. One ton have 150 grams of gold, but if I extract only 100 that will be very good for me. Is 1 ton what you mean by "truck loads" ?rickbb said:Unless you can gear up to process truck loads at a time I seriously doubt you will make any money at all.
Thanks for your advice. However, here are some other thoughts for you to think about:anachronism said:It will cost you so much in time and materials that your perceived 100g will be dropped dramatically in real terms. You can sell those straight out the door and get more for maybe half a day's work invested.
Zolotov said:Thanks! This kind of tips are invaluable on my initiation in this business.chuckgambale said:As of today $1.70 per pound of that style board.
Do you know if this is the price with or without CPU ?
Because, here is the description and it is kind of ambiguous:
Small socket motherboards are a lower grade of PC motherboard.
These boards have CPU's such as Pentium 4, Athlon, Sempron, Celeron D and others.
As with all boards, we require the batteries to be removed before we can purchase them.
If there are batteries on the board, large or small, please remove them.
Zolotov said:Thanks for your advice. However, here are some other thoughts for you to think about:anachronism said:It will cost you so much in time and materials that your perceived 100g will be dropped dramatically in real terms. You can sell those straight out the door and get more for maybe half a day's work invested.
You can make money by these methods:
1) By adding value. You process a product or service to convert it into another form which increase its value.
2) By volume. You replicate the same product and focus on delivering it to more customers.
3) By reducing costs while producing the same value and volume.
What you are suggesting is to stop the chain of product transformation (final product is gold) , or in other words - stop adding the value. Yes you will reduce costs this way because I am not going to invest my time in the product anymore, but the value is not going to be added too. So, there is no gain for me in following your advice, can you see it? If you would suggest some idea that would reduce cost while adding value and also the volume, then it would be a much better idea. This is what making money is about, going not just 1 dimension (the three steps above), but 3 dimensions at the same time.
anachronism said:I process tonnes of board product every week, and the only things I refine personally from this equipment are the small seriously high grade components such as ceramic chips, and telecoms connectors. The rest goes into containers and straight to the refinery. I call it cherry picking, but it means both that my time is spent as effectively as possible, and the real profits are maximised.
Please explain/show photos of how you process half a ton of e-scrap every week.Zolotov said:As a signle person, I can process one ton per two weeks.
aga said:Please explain/show photos of how you process half a ton of e-scrap every week.
There are many internet personalities saying things like this on forums.
It is getting hard to believe that they are all people who actually Do PM recovery/refining.
Well, I currently work on other stuff, and I write all time I consume, per minute. I have done 10 , and 12 hours of work per day (with rest periods in between) and I have no problems working 10 hours a day. I only don't account the time I have to go to the bathroom , because that would be just sick, to register the minute you spent there. But if I take a time to eat something, or rest, I log the end time, then I log the start time. So, 10 hours is not unreal for me, I mean pure work time, measured with precision of a minute. Try to account the time you work. If you talk with a friend, stop the timer , when you finish, start it, just for you to know your real productivity. Most people works 3 to 4 hours a day. I mean, real work, the work that is useful, specially those who work in an office of a large coropration.patnor1011 said:You will not be able to apply this kind of math. No matter how good you are you will not depopulate motherboard in one minute. Not to mention that you will be able to keep on doing it for 10 hours straight. It is not possible. You do have to account for extra time picking up stuff and sorting it......
patnor1011 said:I am in no way trying to discourage you. I did not believed others when they told me exactly the same and tried it only to conclude that they were right so I am simply passing on knowledge and experience on you. You are entitled to disregard it and try it all by yourself but I can bet that you will come to the same conclusion. Some things simply look good on paper but reality is much different.
If the activity you are doing is gold extraction, then you should see the laptop as gold ore. Not as computer. If you see it as computer, then there is a lot of other values you can create from. You can also see the laptop as a killing instrument if it is very heavy. Or as a mirror, if it is of silver color. The amount of added values is infinite if you start switching industries. But if we are looking at it from the point of view of gold recovery, then it is considered mining. The final gold of mining is getting the metal , i.e. the value. If you create jewellery from the gold you extract, then you are entering a new business. Because you could have bought it anywhere as do million of other jewellers. Yes you can create value buy holding the laptop and selling it to the collectionist. But that is again, another business, nothing related to mining. Don't mix business types, because you will lose energy. If you collect, and make jewellery you are going to compete in 3 industries and that's very difficult to win when you fight with 3 enemies instead of just one. Even if your business of mining gold from laptops is successful and you enter another business, like jewellry, it should not be mixed with mining. Because you may lose money, a large healthy company could be keeping afloat a bad jewellery business.patnor1011 said:I do not understand that adding value point you are trying to make. Maybe I am thick but for me gold do have set value and you will not add value to it unless you process it itself into jewelry for example.
If you take motherboard it will have value itself and you cant add anything to it.
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