anachronism
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wooooow ... the best idea ever!!! thanks a lot!!kjavanb123 said:if you want to depopulate a ton of board in a day, here is your answer, look up this company.
I just have a question, what temperature is it burning at ? And what happens to the gold plated sockets are they cleaned fully ? I mean, does this machine fully removes manual work?kjavanb123 said:if you want to depopulate a ton of board in a day, here is your answer, look up this company.
Zolotov said:btw, the biggest problem I am facing, is not processing the scrap , but getting any of it. There is very little of it for a good price, and a lot of expensive scrap which decreases your margin.
How come you have so much Opinion when you have never tried recovering or refining PMs ?Zolotov said:I never did any processing yet, it is all estimations.
Zolotov said:I just have a question, what temperature is it burning at ? And what happens to the gold plated sockets are they cleaned fully ? I mean, does this machine fully removes manual work?kjavanb123 said:if you want to depopulate a ton of board in a day, here is your answer, look up this company.
Also, this method might produce toxic gases because there are resistors on the motherboard that have ruthenium, very dangerous and toxic metal.
aga said:Nor is it a place to ask many random questions just to get some kind of human response.Zolotov said:I never did any processing yet, it is all estimations.
This thread isn't going in a weird direction Jon, it's just going in the direction the OP wanted - they got some attention.
Zolotov said:Attention is not what I am seeking , believe me, all I am after are profits.
Zolotov said:If the activity you are doing is gold extraction, then you should see the laptop as gold ore. Not as computer. If you see it as computer, then there is a lot of other values you can create from. You can also see the laptop as a killing instrument if it is very heavy. Or as a mirror, if it is of silver color. The amount of added values is infinite if you start switching industries. But if we are looking at it from the point of view of gold recovery, then it is considered mining. The final gold of mining is getting the metal , i.e. the value. If you create jewellery from the gold you extract, then you are entering a new business. Because you could have bought it anywhere as do million of other jewellers. Yes you can create value buy holding the laptop and selling it to the collectionist. But that is again, another business, nothing related to mining. Don't mix business types, because you will lose energy. If you collect, and make jewellery you are going to compete in 3 industries and that's very difficult to win when you fight with 3 enemies instead of just one. Even if your business of mining gold from laptops is successful and you enter another business, like jewellry, it should not be mixed with mining. Because you may lose money, a large healthy company could be keeping afloat a bad jewellery business.patnor1011 said:I do not understand that adding value point you are trying to make. Maybe I am thick but for me gold do have set value and you will not add value to it unless you process it itself into jewelry for example.
If you take motherboard it will have value itself and you cant add anything to it.
Please, leave the moderation to the moderators.aga said:Repeatedly posting questions about things you are not even doing will not be tolerated further.
aga said:Zolotov, this forum is the Best source of information about recovering/refining Gold and other Precious Metals available on the planet, because it is for people who Do recovery/refining.
Either try to recover/refine something, or not.
If you are not trying to recover or refine Gold/PMs, then this is not the forum you wanted.
Repeatedly posting questions about things you are not even doing will not be tolerated further.
patnor1011 said:I do not understand that adding value point you are trying to make. Maybe I am thick but for me gold do have set value and you will not add value to it unless you process it itself into jewelry for example.
If you take motherboard it will have value itself and you cant add anything to it. You either process it or sell. You can buy cheaper than real value and perhaps sometimes sell for more than its value but I do not get how you can add any value to it apart from keeping it in storage for 50 years and trying to offload it as collectors item. With scrapping, recovery and refining there is no adding value of any sort I can think of.
snoman701 said:patnor1011 said:I do not understand that adding value point you are trying to make. Maybe I am thick but for me gold do have set value and you will not add value to it unless you process it itself into jewelry for example.
If you take motherboard it will have value itself and you cant add anything to it. You either process it or sell. You can buy cheaper than real value and perhaps sometimes sell for more than its value but I do not get how you can add any value to it apart from keeping it in storage for 50 years and trying to offload it as collectors item. With scrapping, recovery and refining there is no adding value of any sort I can think of.
Adding Value in scrap is a misnomer as you suggest....I think it's better called "upgrading".
As an example, if you take a digital TV box and strip it of all of the RCA plugs, coax plugs, large capacitors...then you have upgraded that 1.5 lb board to a higher grade 1 lb board and 1/2 lb cleaner copper bearing scrap. Sort the large capacitors and removed components, and you have upgraded that material as well, as now instead of just "shred" you have copper bearing and aluminum bearing breakage. It will depend on how fast you are able to process it to determine if you are going to make any money or not. Either way, I've never known it as a method of processing to receive full intrinsic value of a product.
I actually do it a lot, and find there are places where you can really make some good $$ if you aren't afraid to get dirty, and have a good source of incoming scrap.
anachronism said:I find it funny that people who have yet to show any gold seem to feel lately that they can tell people how to make money at this game. Let's see some gold, would you not agree that it's about time you had some to show?
Patnor's been at this a long time and is one of the sharpest guys I know when it comes to making money.
Is there a completely safe way to process electronic scrap for big and small scale?patnor1011 said:Zolotov said:I just have a question, what temperature is it burning at ? And what happens to the gold plated sockets are they cleaned fully ? I mean, does this machine fully removes manual work?kjavanb123 said:if you want to depopulate a ton of board in a day, here is your answer, look up this company.
Also, this method might produce toxic gases because there are resistors on the motherboard that have ruthenium, very dangerous and toxic metal.
Ruthenium? Do not be overly concerned with this one. There are tens of others which can kill you, some of them even faster....
You forgot:
Arsenic. ...
Barium. ...
Beryllium. ...
Brominated flame retardants (BFRs) ...
Cadmium. ...
CFCs (Chlorofluorocarbons) ...
Chromium. ...
Dioxins Dioxins and furans are a family of chemicals comprising 75 different types of dioxin compounds and 135 related compounds known as furans.
Lead. ..
Mercury. ..
and many many others....
saadat68 said:Is there a completely safe way to process electronic scrap for big and small scale?
I don't want to contact with toxic metals
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