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No I dont get paid for the silver
If you are not paid on silver a 6 kilo lot (192.9 oz) running an average of 12%Silver will cost you 23 oz of Silver which at the current price of $24 an oz is worth $554. Yeah you will be much better off refining yourself.
My English is not good I don't get it. How this would be translated in my term? Is it the refineries cut is 0.5%?
Yes the refinery charges 0.5% plus the per ounce incoming fee. The word accountability is an accounting magic term so the actual 0.5% they charge doesn't show up on an invoice as a charge. For example, if you sent in 100 ounces of gold to refine, the charges here in the US would show the incoming fee, so $100 or $150 based on your quote. If the gold was an assay of 15 k (like yours) they would charge .625 x 100 = 62.5 oz. Since the accountability is 0.5% the paperwork will only multiply th 62.5 by 99.5% and report 62.1875 ounces. You get back or get paid on 62.1875 and they keep 0.3125 oz. But only the incoming charge has a dollar figure on the paperwork. They also pay on silver with different charges. It is confusing, I know plenty of English speaking Americans who don't really get it.
 
Yes the refinery charges 0.5% plus the per ounce incoming fee. The word accountability is an accounting magic term so the actual 0.5% they charge doesn't show up on an invoice as a charge. For example, if you sent in 100 ounces of gold to refine, the charges here in the US would show the incoming fee, so $100 or $150 based on your quote. If the gold was an assay of 15 k (like yours) they would charge .625 x 100 = 62.5 oz. Since the accountability is 0.5% the paperwork will only multiply th 62.5 by 99.5% and report 62.1875 ounces. You get back or get paid on 62.1875 and they keep 0.3125 oz. But only the incoming charge has a dollar figure on the paperwork. They also pay on silver with different charges. It is confusing, I know plenty of English speaking Americans who don't really get it.
I see the difference here. My refinery charges me, let's for simplicity say 0.5%, but that is on the total weight of the bar. So in my math, I only get 62.0000 oz not 62.1875oz. Beside incoming fee 1$/oz is not much a problem
So the actual gold accountability in your term, for me, is really 1-0.5/62.5 = 99.2% not 99.5%,
 
my business turnover is around ~3-6kg of 15K scrap a week,
I'm a number cruncher and from this average quantity of scrap weekly, you are processing an average of 4.5 kg a week for 50 weeks (I give you 2 weeks off for vacation). That comes to 144.675 x 50 = 7,233.75 ounces of karat averaging .625 Gold assay. And .12 assay for Silver will yield 868.05 ounces of Silver

Processing yourself you will save at least 22.6 oz of gold assuming you will save 0.5% over what you are being charged now. (and this 0.5% is a low ball savings, with experience you will get your costs lower) Annual savings at $2000 gold = $45,200
The Silver at 12% amounts to 868.05 x $24 = $20,833

If you are making money with an outside refiner you can expect to make an additional $66,033 by doing it in house at your current quantity of refining. And you have said you will be able to sell your gold over spot for even greater profit. And I am sure you will find a market for Silver to jewelry manufacturers as well.

Hopefully these figures will make you end your year on an optimistic note and looking forward to setting up your own refinery.
 
Thank you for such detail explanation. What is the cons of inquarting? Inquarting method seems much easier, faster?, and seems more economy to refine gold than AR method.
Given most fashion jewelry comes with low %Au and higher %Ag, why AR still widely used?
I opened this thread to ask about AR but this made me rethink my approach.
I see your location is in Asia. From my experience with gold refining, you can do few things for start to observe some processes, and work without any expensive equipment.
You own a business. That means you need to make a profit. And your profit metals are gold and silver (explained in detail by 4metals).

Firstly, if you have good furnance to melt the gold in kilogram quantities regularly and confidently, I would opt for inquartation. Inquartaion is predictable, easy and straightforward practice that works like 99.9 % of the time. It is complete, do not require any tumblers or advanced equipment, and produce >99% Au in the end (if there wasn´t any significant PGMs in the starting metal).

My biggest question is - how much do you pay for nitric acid ? Because this can determine feasibility of the process. Truth is, you do not need to inquart with silver, if you worry about the initial cost. You can inquart with copper instead and the end result will be the same. Only difference is in consumption of nitric acid. Copper inquarting will eat as much as 2-3 times more nitric than silver inquartation. However, if the prices of nitric acid are the same (or lower) than prices here (EU), this would not be that problematic. We used to get technical grade 53% nitric acid in bulk (50L canisters) for around 1,1-1,9 EUR/L (depends on supplier). With this cost, your costs are minimal, performance is very good and as a bonus, you will recover the silver for yourself. 4metals already did the math for you. When you accumulate enough silver, you can start inquarting with it (instead of copper), and this will save the nitric acid even more.

I usually obtained >99% Au after inquartation, either with silver or copper. My average was 99,05-99,45 % Au in the obtained gold sponge. With one good refining step with AR, you will go past 99,9% Au (I ranged between 99,91-99,94% Au for most of the times with one AR refining step of this sponge).

At least, you will account on silver, and with this quantity of material, I would strongly consider this option. You are in a position to grow from dependance on the middlemans and go your own way. Obviously, there are risks involved, chemistry is chemistry, and it can go wrong if you screw something up... But inquartation is hard to screw up :) And sreetips have your back with nice and informative AR gold refining videos on YouTube. Quite not your scale, but for example, 4metals have broad experience with scaling up such operations. Together we can work it out :)
 
I'm a number cruncher and from this average quantity of scrap weekly, you are processing an average of 4.5 kg a week for 50 weeks (I give you 2 weeks off for vacation). That comes to 144.675 x 50 = 7,233.75 ounces of karat averaging .625 Gold assay. And .12 assay for Silver will yield 868.05 ounces of Silver

Processing yourself you will save at least 22.6 oz of gold assuming you will save 0.5% over what you are being charged now. (and this 0.5% is a low ball savings, with experience you will get your costs lower) Annual savings at $2000 gold = $45,200
The Silver at 12% amounts to 868.05 x $24 = $20,833

If you are making money with an outside refiner you can expect to make an additional $66,033 by doing it in house at your current quantity of refining. And you have said you will be able to sell your gold over spot for even greater profit. And I am sure you will find a market for Silver to jewelry manufacturers as well.

Hopefully these figures will make you end your year on an optimistic note and looking forward to setting up your own refinery.
Good to hear about the numbers but I am not sure did you take into account operation costs, material costs, and cost as %gold loss? What are possible operating expenses?
Or are these just the surplus income I could make refining at home? Thank you again for the numbers but they seem a little bit too optimistic.
 
I see your location is in Asia. From my experience with gold refining, you can do few things for start to observe some processes, and work without any expensive equipment.
You own a business. That means you need to make a profit. And your profit metals are gold and silver (explained in detail by 4metals).
I am going to do a few tests before scaling up. If silver was taken into account, it would be more profitable, that was something out of my head few days ago.
My biggest question is - how much do you pay for nitric acid ? Because this can determine feasibility of the process. Truth is, you do not need to inquart with silver, if you worry about the initial cost. You can inquart with copper instead and the end result will be the same. Only difference is in consumption of nitric acid. Copper inquarting will eat as much as 2-3 times more nitric than silver inquartation. However, if the prices of nitric acid are the same (or lower) than prices here (EU), this would not be that problematic. We used to get technical grade 53% nitric acid in bulk (50L canisters) for around 1,1-1,9 EUR/L (depends on supplier). With this cost, your costs are minimal, performance is very good and as a bonus, you will recover the silver for yourself. 4metals already did the math for you. When you accumulate enough silver, you can start inquarting with it (instead of copper), and this will save the nitric acid even more.
I have a quote of 68% nitric acid for 15EUR/can (35kg), but I don't know the quality. Or I can buy imported lab grade nitric acid for 3EUR/L. There seems nothing in between. One quality is questionable, the other way too expensive.
But inquartation is hard to screw up
Sure, I will try this approach first, thank you.
 
I am going to do a few tests before scaling up. If silver was taken into account, it would be more profitable, that was something out of my head few days ago.

I have a quote of 68% nitric acid for 15EUR/can (35kg), but I don't know the quality. Or I can buy imported lab grade nitric acid for 3EUR/L. There seems nothing in between. One quality is questionable, the other way too expensive.

Sure, I will try this approach first, thank you.
The price you have is very good. In fact, you just need to test the acid for eventual chloride contamination - because if there is chloride contamination, you will dissolve some gold into the solution - and that is obviously bad thing.

However, we used tech grade 53% nitric for all of the operations, and experienced no problems at all. However, I would test beforehand, if you do not have analysis of that acid available by seller. Risk is just too high, and gold is expensive.
 
The price you have is very good. In fact, you just need to test the acid for eventual chloride contamination - because if there is chloride contamination, you will dissolve some gold into the solution - and that is obviously bad thing.
Good point, it would be a mistake to assume every reagent we buy is pure, just like it is safe to assume assay lead is gold and silver free. You have to check.

To check the nitric take a small sample of karat scrap and part it in 2 parts distilled water and 1 part nitric. The acid shouldn’t dissolve much if the Silver is only 12% but if there is chloride in the nitric you will detect gold in solution with a stannous chloride test. If you have a rolling mill, roll out the sample to expose more metal to the reaction.
 
I had some time today so I prepared this.

The cost of refining a lot of karat gold with silver at 12%. The average size of these lots is 4.5 kg

The first part of the process involves separating the copper and nitric soluble metals, along with the silver from the inquarted alloy. Fortunately, this can be easily done in a stainless-steel vessel which are available larger and at a price much more reasonable than glass. The stainless steel can be heated to heat the acid on either an electric or gas hot plate. And a stainless pot can take a lot more dings than glass.

Melt all of the bars together and add the material you are inquarting with. Eventually this will all be silver. Stir the melt well and pour the metal in a thin stream into a tank of water with a piece of wood sticking out of the water at an angle so you can pour the stream of metal to the point where the wood meets the water. This will help you have smaller granules of alloy which react quicker. These shotted granules are what we will part in the nitric acid.

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Because of the high silver in the assay this alloy will require inquartation with silver or copper. Given the size of the lot, the extra nitric required for this process will result in an excessive use of nitric acid if it is inquarted with copper. As this process will be to attain the highest purity of gold when processing the gold remaining after inquartation, to assist in this the inquarted alloy needs to be parted twice.

The first parting is done with 1-part nitric acid and 2 parts distilled water. When the reaction is complete the evolution of the red nitric fumes will stop. Based on the quantity of nitric acid added the dissolving out of the should be complete and the metal remaining undissolved should be primarily gold. I always stir the reaction about halfway through with a glass rod to be sure it is well mixed. When the reaction appears to be complete, give it another stir to be sure.

Decant the solution and rinse the gold mud sitting on the bottom with distilled water, swirl the water and gold mud and allow the gold to settle. The gold is heavy, and it behaves well by staying in the pot if you are careful. Save the liquors you have just removed from the first parting process. These will later be filtered, and the silver will be recovered.

Now the second parting solution can be added. This parting liquor is 1 part nitric to 1 part distilled water. Add ¼ of the volume of the acid you added the first time as the volume of the metal will be much less and the purpose of this leach is to clean up any remaining silver of base metals, so your gold mud approaches a purity of .995. Heat this solution and let the gold mud sit in the hot parting acid for about 45 minutes. This acid will have leached out a very small amount of silver and copper and once you learn the process you can filter this acid and re-use it as a first parting acid to save acid costs. The rinse water you add should bring the nitric ratio close enough to the 2:1 of the first acid and save on nitric. Only start doing this once you are comfortable doing the process using new acids each tie until you are comfortable. After the swirling rinse like the first time, decant the liquid for recycling for a second use. The gold mud, which looks just like used coffee grinds at this point should be rinsed through a filter where it is rinsed well with hot distilled water.

I have gone through the calculation to determine the quantities of acid to do the steps above here for you to see.

Starting weight 4.5 kilograms
Gold assay 0.625. gold content 144.625 oz
Silver assay 12%. Silver content 17.361 oz
Remaining metals (Cu, Zn possibly nickel). 100% - (.625 + .12) = .255 which equals 36.892 oz other metals (we assume copper)

Good numbers to remember.

129 ml of 68% nitric acid dissolves 1 ounce of copper
38 ml of 68% nitric acid dissolves 1 ounce of silver
Easy to see why silver is preferred to inquart.

The alloy we start with has 90.422 ounces of gold in it. To make that one quarter of the total inquarted alloy multiply it by 3 and that’s how much we need to dilute the gold with. But there is already copper and silver in the alloy, so we need some subtraction.

Total metal needed to have gold at 25% 271.266 ounces.

But we already have 17.361 ounces of Ag in the alloy and 36.893 ounces of what we assume is copper (and other nitric soluble metals)

So 271.266 ounces minus 17.361 ounces minus 36.893 ounces means we need to add 217.013 ounces of silver

Now to calculate the amount of nitric acid to part this.

We added 217.013 ounces and there were 17.361 ounces of silver in the alloy so we need to add enough nitric to dissolve 234.374 ounces

From the good number to remember above that means we will need
234.374 x 38 = 8906.193 ml of 68% nitric acid.
And…..
36.893 x 129 = 4759.084 ml of nitric to dissolve the copper.

To do the first parting of this lot, Inquarted with silver, requires 13.665 liters of nitric acid. This quantity of nitric acid is diluted with 2 parts of distilled water so your total acid for this parting will be 40.995 liters.

Using the cost numbers you gave for nitric this first parting will cost you (in acid)

EUR 8.86 for the cheaper acid
EUR 40.996 for the better grade acid

The second parting we need the strength of the acid to be 1:1 with distilled water but we only need enough of the acid to cover the gold mud with acid by a little bit. I assume ¼ of the original parting acid quantity. The second parting should cost you in acid;

EUR 2.215 for the cheaper acid
EUR 6.645 for the better grade acid

Two things to consider. The cheaper nitric is cheaper for a reason. Is it clear or discolored. And does it have chlorides in it?

If it has chlorides and can dissolve gold it is a problem, and you cannot use it. If it is just discolored, it is probably from some dissolved metals and it should be OK with rinsing. If it is diluted, you will need more acid.

The method to convert the silver nitrate are covered elsewhere on the forum. As are silver cells if you want to set up a small cell. A silver cell will be more important if you want to go with straight aqua regia because you will hang up gold in the chlorides. And you will want to recover it quickly.

The gold mud is dissolved in a mixture or 4 parts Hydrochloric Acid to 1 part of Nitric acid. Add the gold mud to an appropriately sized glass vessel and add the HCl. For the lot size listed use the rule of thumb that says for every 7.5 ounces of gold to dissolve use 1 liter of aqua regia. Do not add all of the nitric at first, add about 1/3 of the nitric to start. (This example with 90.422 ounces of gold will require 12 liters of aqua regia or 2.41 liters of nitric and 9.6 liters of hydrochloric.). The gold mud will dissolve quickly so go slow with small additions of nitric acid as the reaction slows. This way you will not add too much and you won’t need to neutralize any excess free nitric acid.

The gold solution needs to be filtered and the gold dropped with either sodium metabisulfite or preferably sulfur dioxide gas. Add ice to the solution before you filter it and this will drop out any silver chloride so the filter catches it. The ice will make your gold purer. If your alloys have any lead, add a few CC of sulfuric acid to the digestion to keep it out of your precipitate.



As far as labor is concerned for the lots you are discussing I would leave an hour for melting and inquarting and the silver parting process should be done in 3 hours. The gold digestion, filtration and dropping should be done in under 4 hours. Due largely to the small particle size of the gold mud after parting process.

Since you will not be dealing with gold hanging up in the parting process your losses will be minimal and with the exception of any values in the exhaust (minimal) you will not lose more than 0.0625% in this process. You will find the assay between you and your refiner may vary by as much as .5% unless you run proof assays as most refiners use a standard proof factor of .995 when it should be closer to .998

As with all refining, technique and experience matters, any losses experienced when starting up will get smaller with experience.

You can plug in the labor cost and Hydrochloric Acid cost to get pretty close to your total cost. You also need metabisulfite or Sulfur Dioxide but that isn't very costly.
 
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The price you have is very good. In fact, you just need to test the acid for eventual chloride contamination - because if there is chloride contamination, you will dissolve some gold into the solution - and that is obviously bad thing.

However, we used tech grade 53% nitric for all of the operations, and experienced no problems at all. However, I would test beforehand, if you do not have analysis of that acid available by seller. Risk is just too high, and gold is expensive.
Chemical contamination suddenly became my top concern, I will try to find a realiable source
 
Two things to consider. The cheaper nitric is cheaper for a reason. Is it clear or discolored. And does it have chlorides in it?

If it has chlorides and can dissolve gold it is a problem, and you cannot use it. If it is just discolored, it is probably from some dissolved metals and it should be OK with rinsing. If it is diluted, you will need more acid.
At the moment I will do only with lab grade acid.
 
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I had some time today so I prepared this.

The cost of refining a lot of karat gold with silver at 12%. The average size of these lots is 4.5 kg

The first part of the process involves separating the copper and nitric soluble metals, along with the silver from the inquarted alloy. Fortunately, this can be easily done in a stainless-steel vessel which are available larger and at a price much more reasonable than glass. The stainless steel can be heated to heat the acid on either an electric or gas hot plate. And a stainless pot can take a lot more dings than glass.

Melt all of the bars together and add the material you are inquarting with. Eventually this will all be silver. Stir the melt well and pour the metal in a thin stream into a tank of water with a piece of wood sticking out of the water at an angle so you can pour the stream of metal to the point where the wood meets the water. This will help you have smaller granules of alloy which react quicker. These shotted granules are what we will part in the nitric acid.

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Because of the high silver in the assay this alloy will require inquartation with silver or copper. Given the size of the lot, the extra nitric required for this process will result in an excessive use of nitric acid if it is inquarted with copper. As this process will be to attain the highest purity of gold when processing the gold remaining after inquartation, to assist in this the inquarted alloy needs to be parted twice.

The first parting is done with 1-part nitric acid and 2 parts distilled water. When the reaction is complete the evolution of the red nitric fumes will stop. Based on the quantity of nitric acid added the dissolving out of the should be complete and the metal remaining undissolved should be primarily gold. I always stir the reaction about halfway through with a glass rod to be sure it is well mixed. When the reaction appears to be complete, give it another stir to be sure.

Decant the solution and rinse the gold mud sitting on the bottom with distilled water, swirl the water and gold mud and allow the gold to settle. The gold is heavy, and it behaves well by staying in the pot if you are careful. Save the liquors you have just removed from the first parting process. These will later be filtered, and the silver will be recovered.

Now the second parting solution can be added. This parting liquor is 1 part nitric to 1 part distilled water. Add ¼ of the volume of the acid you added the first time as the volume of the metal will be much less and the purpose of this leach is to clean up any remaining silver of base metals, so your gold mud approaches a purity of .995. Heat this solution and let the gold mud sit in the hot parting acid for about 45 minutes. This acid will have leached out a very small amount of silver and copper and once you learn the process you can filter this acid and re-use it as a first parting acid to save acid costs. The rinse water you add should bring the nitric ratio close enough to the 2:1 of the first acid and save on nitric. Only start doing this once you are comfortable doing the process using new acids each tie until you are comfortable. After the swirling rinse like the first time, decant the liquid for recycling for a second use. The gold mud, which looks just like used coffee grinds at this point should be rinsed through a filter where it is rinsed well with hot distilled water.

I have gone through the calculation to determine the quantities of acid to do the steps above here for you to see.

Starting weight 4.5 kilograms
Gold assay 0.625. gold content 144.625 oz
Silver assay 12%. Silver content 17.361 oz
Remaining metals (Cu, Zn possibly nickel). 100% - (.625 + .12) = .255 which equals 36.892 oz other metals (we assume copper)

Good numbers to remember.

129 ml of 68% nitric acid dissolves 1 ounce of copper
38 ml of 68% nitric acid dissolves 1 ounce of silver
Easy to see why silver is preferred to inquart.

The alloy we start with has 90.422 ounces of gold in it. To make that one quarter of the total inquarted alloy multiply it by 3 and that’s how much we need to dilute the gold with. But there is already copper and silver in the alloy, so we need some subtraction.

Total metal needed to have gold at 25% 271.266 ounces.

But we already have 17.361 ounces of Ag in the alloy and 36.893 ounces of what we assume is copper (and other nitric soluble metals)

So 271.266 ounces minus 17.361 ounces minus 36.893 ounces means we need to add 217.013 ounces of silver

Now to calculate the amount of nitric acid to part this.

We added 217.013 ounces and there were 17.361 ounces of silver in the alloy so we need to add enough nitric to dissolve 234.374 ounces

From the good number to remember above that means we will need
234.374 x 38 = 8906.193 ml of 68% nitric acid.
And…..
36.893 x 129 = 4759.084 ml of nitric to dissolve the copper.

To do the first parting of this lot, Inquarted with silver, requires 13.665 liters of nitric acid. This quantity of nitric acid is diluted with 2 parts of distilled water so your total acid for this parting will be 40.995 liters.

Using the cost numbers you gave for nitric this first parting will cost you (in acid)

EUR 8.86 for the cheaper acid
EUR 40.996 for the better grade acid

The second parting we need the strength of the acid to be 1:1 with distilled water but we only need enough of the acid to cover the gold mud with acid by a little bit. I assume ¼ of the original parting acid quantity. The second parting should cost you in acid;

EUR 2.215 for the cheaper acid
EUR 6.645 for the better grade acid

Two things to consider. The cheaper nitric is cheaper for a reason. Is it clear or discolored. And does it have chlorides in it?

If it has chlorides and can dissolve gold it is a problem, and you cannot use it. If it is just discolored, it is probably from some dissolved metals and it should be OK with rinsing. If it is diluted, you will need more acid.

The method to convert the silver nitrate are covered elsewhere on the forum. As are silver cells if you want to set up a small cell. A silver cell will be more important if you want to go with straight aqua regia because you will hang up gold in the chlorides. And you will want to recover it quickly.

The gold mud is dissolved in a mixture or 4 parts Hydrochloric Acid to 1 part of Nitric acid. Add the gold mud to an appropriately sized glass vessel and add the HCl. For the lot size listed use the rule of thumb that says for every 7.5 ounces of gold to dissolve use 1 liter of aqua regia. Do not add all of the nitric at first, add about 1/3 of the nitric to start. (This example with 90.422 ounces of gold will require 12 liters of aqua regia or 2.41 liters of nitric and 9.6 liters of hydrochloric.). The gold mud will dissolve quickly so go slow with small additions of nitric acid as the reaction slows. This way you will not add too much and you won’t need to neutralize any excess free nitric acid.

The gold solution needs to be filtered and the gold dropped with either sodium metabisulfite or preferably sulfur dioxide gas. Add ice to the solution before you filter it and this will drop out any silver chloride so the filter catches it. The ice will make your gold purer. If your alloys have any lead, add a few CC of sulfuric acid to the digestion to keep it out of your precipitate.



As far as labor is concerned for the lots you are discussing I would leave an hour for melting and inquarting and the silver parting process should be done in 3 hours. The gold digestion, filtration and dropping should be done in under 4 hours. Due largely to the small particle size of the gold mud after parting process.

Since you will not be dealing with gold hanging up in the parting process your losses will be minimal and with the exception of any values in the exhaust (minimal) you will not lose more than 0.0625% in this process. You will find the assay between you and your refiner may vary by as much as .5% unless you run proof assays as most refiners use a standard proof factor of .995 when it should be closer to .998

As with all refining, technique and experience matters, any losses experienced when starting up will get smaller with experience.

You can plug in the labor cost and Hydrochloric Acid cost to get pretty close to your total cost. You also need metabisulfite or Sulfur Dioxide but that isn't very costly.
wow thank you for another well explained post!
At this time, in trial phase money is not a problem, sure it will come later when I try to scale up.
I think I will begin my first try at the end of this month, I will note and update my progress as much as possible.
 
This has been a very good thread from my perspective as a moderator. But the reason it turned out so well is because of the OP, giahylxag, he asked a well thought out question which gave the readers a good understanding of his request. And in follow up threads, he answered all of the questions that were asked. All of this while English is not his first language. From a moderators point of view, questions and responses staying on topic is the key to an informative thread. And for other non moderator contributors who also willingly give freely of their knowledge, having a good description of the situation makes for better answers.

So why did I post this here? I just want other members with questions to realize the more we know about what you are having trouble with, the better we can answer your questions. And the more you are willing to answer questions asked once the thread proceeds, the more everyone gets out of the thread.

OK, done pontificating.
 
It will take a couple of days up to 2 weeks for me to gather resources. Many things can be bought locally and something can only be ordered online. Some even can only be sourced directly from China.
I am currently have some problem buying acid since lab grade corrosive and harmful chemicals are strictly controlled, it will take a week or so for me to get permission, no problem.
I am ordering lab grade bechers, trying to find some quality stuffs, I don't want them to explode midway with all my gold.
I am buying a very small (3kw) induction furnance, (~150$), I don't have many experiences with induction furnance.
So now it's wait time. It is painful to wait when you miss only one or two things and you cannot continue without them, so I am trying to gather all of them before my first try.
 
A pic of what I have garthered in the last couple of days. The glassware is incoming so pic later
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I can se one thing you should not use, Urea.

You should either not overuse the Nitric or use Sulfamic Acid to DeNox your solution.
Make your AR like this: Cover the material HCl and then add Nitric in small increments until all Gold is dissolved.
For your Cupric Chloride leach, take some small Copper pieces and moisten them in HCl and let them sit until they are green.
When you start your leach, add HCl and wash the green Copper into it, then let an aquarium bubbler bubble air through it.
This will remove the Copper traces under the Gold foils.

It is better to use SodiumMetaBisulfite (SMB) for dropping the Gold, more effective.
Sodium Hydroxide won't be needed until your waste treatment.

Edit to correct a typo
 
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