While it might not give you how good the plating or % of gold on your watch is try researching through auctioneers. Fellows and Sons here in the UK have regular watch auctions and details are available through their website for past and present sales, I'm sure there are others around the world doing similar things, this might at least give a guide to value.
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"warranted" by itself or "warranted "XX" years means gold filled.
"Warranted to assay" or "WARRANTED 14k" 99 percetn of the time means solid 14k gold.
But as noted above, a couple of companies in the late 1800's marked their cases "14K" and they were not.
Bottom line" Use head and your hands. 95% of gold cases will bend or "give" when you try to squeeze or bend them.
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"Warranted to assay" or "WARRANTED 14k" 99 percetn of the time means solid 14k gold.
But as noted above, a couple of companies in the late 1800's marked their cases "14K" and they were not.
Bottom line" Use head and your hands. 95% of gold cases will bend or "give" when you try to squeeze or bend them.
FLA
kuma
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Hi Claudie , how are tricks ?
I hope that all is well!
I'm so sorry , I was going to post your image of your watch on a watch collectors forum a while ago , I completly forgot!
I'll do that now before it slips again! :mrgreen:
All the best for now and kind regards ,
Chris
I hope that all is well!
I'm so sorry , I was going to post your image of your watch on a watch collectors forum a while ago , I completly forgot!
I'll do that now before it slips again! :mrgreen:
All the best for now and kind regards ,
Chris
kuma
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Hi Claudie , no worries!
I have put out a description and your picture on a couple of watch forums looking for a better I.D. on it and have asked again with regards to the solid gold/gold filled question.
Ive arleady had one reply saying that it is "definitley gold filled" , and "It's hard to say without seeing all of the movement who made it-it looks like a 7j. Perhaps Seth Thomas, or it could be Swiss".
I would love to get my hands on some gold filled myself , just something else to try at some point! :mrgreen:
I do have what looks like a very thickly plated wrist watch that I've had knocking around for years , I look forward to seeing the foil off of that! 8)
I also have a sandwich bag nearly full of what look like plated glasses/spectacle frames , wether or not they are I really don't know just yet and theres no way for me to test just now due to lack of chemicals (directly related to the fact that I have nowhere at home to safely store or use them )
I'll let you know what else comes up! 8)
All the best and kind regards ,
Chris
I have put out a description and your picture on a couple of watch forums looking for a better I.D. on it and have asked again with regards to the solid gold/gold filled question.
Ive arleady had one reply saying that it is "definitley gold filled" , and "It's hard to say without seeing all of the movement who made it-it looks like a 7j. Perhaps Seth Thomas, or it could be Swiss".
I would love to get my hands on some gold filled myself , just something else to try at some point! :mrgreen:
I do have what looks like a very thickly plated wrist watch that I've had knocking around for years , I look forward to seeing the foil off of that! 8)
I also have a sandwich bag nearly full of what look like plated glasses/spectacle frames , wether or not they are I really don't know just yet and theres no way for me to test just now due to lack of chemicals (directly related to the fact that I have nowhere at home to safely store or use them
)I'll let you know what else comes up! 8)
All the best and kind regards ,
Chris
qst42know
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The same rule applies with wrist watches. Do check you aren't disolving more value than you will ever recover. There are several filled wrist watches the price of which would make your jaw drop.
kuma
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qst42know said:
Hello , how are things ?
I hope your well!
Your right , I havn't actualy tried to look up the potential value of the watch that I have , mainly just because it doen't work propperly (you have to give it a knock to get it going) , and it is a fairly plain design , nothing to *exciting* looking.
Now that you mention it though , I'll dig out the movement at some point and google it out of interest!
All the best and kind regards ,
Chris
kuma
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Hi all , how are things ?
I hope all is well!
Claudie , an update on what's been said about your watch on the watch forums ;
"US Horological Trademark Index by Kurtis Meyers Page 208
Illinois Watch Case Co. Elgin Illinois ( http://tinyurl.com/c5s4276 )
Trade Mark Elgin Tiger Filed: Aug 10 1893 Use Since: June 1 1887
Claim: watch cases "
Followed by ;
"I am not sure, that this trade mark is from the Illinois WCCo... in the Meyers book the trade mark is "ELGIN TIGER", not "TIGER" with a tiger."
,.....
"Clock & Watch Trademark Index of European Origin by Karl Kochmann Page 769 Trade Name Tempus Charles Schiller Chaux-de-Fonds 1894"
,.....
"There is from C. Schiller only a "Tempus" trade mark, but nothing with a tiger !"
I'm not too sure if this will be of any use trying to identify your watch , but I hope that it is! :mrgreen:
Wishing you all the best and sending my kind regards ,
Chris
I hope all is well!
Claudie , an update on what's been said about your watch on the watch forums ;
"US Horological Trademark Index by Kurtis Meyers Page 208
Illinois Watch Case Co. Elgin Illinois ( http://tinyurl.com/c5s4276 )
Trade Mark Elgin Tiger Filed: Aug 10 1893 Use Since: June 1 1887
Claim: watch cases "
Followed by ;
"I am not sure, that this trade mark is from the Illinois WCCo... in the Meyers book the trade mark is "ELGIN TIGER", not "TIGER" with a tiger."
,.....
"Clock & Watch Trademark Index of European Origin by Karl Kochmann Page 769 Trade Name Tempus Charles Schiller Chaux-de-Fonds 1894"
,.....
"There is from C. Schiller only a "Tempus" trade mark, but nothing with a tiger !"
I'm not too sure if this will be of any use trying to identify your watch , but I hope that it is! :mrgreen:
Wishing you all the best and sending my kind regards ,
Chris
kuma
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Hello , how are things today?
I hope everybodys O.K.!
Claudie , no worries chief! If anything else comes up on the watch forums I'll be sure to let you know , :mrgreen:
Judging by your image I'd say that you were close , I'm inclined to agree with your thinking , it looks pretty darn similar , if it's not it has to be close to copyright infringement! :lol:
All the best and kind regards ,
Chris
I hope everybodys O.K.!
Claudie , no worries chief! If anything else comes up on the watch forums I'll be sure to let you know , :mrgreen:
Judging by your image I'd say that you were close , I'm inclined to agree with your thinking , it looks pretty darn similar , if it's not it has to be close to copyright infringement! :lol:
All the best and kind regards ,
Chris
